Anon doesn’t know, Discord fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software.
What do you mean??
I think they are saying that discord is bad because it is not Free software, that it is bad because it is a commercial service
This is one of the bigger reasons I don’t want to use social media controlled by a corporation, it means they can choose to cut me off from people at their discretion, which will probably be based on what is convenient and easy for them.
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Luigi is an American hero. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. It’s what he stands for.
That is kinda bullshit if they didn’t even see the content.
I mean, seeing as it’s a 4chan greentext there’s probably some very important information being left out.
Entirely possible.
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Discord specifically has a skip to most recent post button, that i use frequently on the busier ones, because I’m not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what’s currently relevant.
Am I guilty of thoughtcrime?
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My question is why do people feel the need to be in 40 servers? I couldn’t name 10 I give a shit about.
As a user you’re voluntarily joining a server, you should know what the content is and how well it’s moderated. Ignorance isn’t a defense here; a server doesn’t get nuked for one bad actor posting illegal content once or twice.
Nine times out of ten these stories are from a user that joins servers made for NSFW content (usually for something like OF leaks). There’s no content verification and lots of active channels.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that combo almost always ends poorly (see: reddit jailbait or old pornhub). If it feels risky just leave, there’s no lack of places to find porn on the internet.
Edit: The downvotes and replies are hilarious. Have any of you actually been banned? Do you know anyone that has been banned? If these small servers for games or 10k member general servers were the issue, you’d hear about this way more.
Discord doesn’t want to ban users, it’s bad for business. They know what servers you’re in and how you access them. If they think banning someone is worth it its to cover their ass on ACTUAL crime; nothing about this is thought crime.
Again, give me any counter example of masses of users being unjustly banned. You’re tilting at windmills people…
I’m in 60+ servers, but actively follow maybe 4-5. Others are for different games, twitch communities, lots of subreddit discords since I haven’t used Reddit since the API bullshit… I should trim down the list but I like popping in to them occasionally, don’t feel like I should get banned due to activity in a server I rarely check
1-3 for friend groups, 3-20 for various games because devs decided to stop using traditional forums so if you want to talk shit to a game devs face regarding changes that fix the exploit you’ve been using to have fun you have to pretend to be a discord kitten for months and gain their confidence so you can appropriately deal enough psychic damage to repay what they took from you, 5-10 for foss software collaboration, 5-10 for obscure porn game contribution so it stops taking ten fucking months between updates.
And I think I’m pretty asocial. Normies must have thousands of servers joined.
Limit is 200 with nitro but there is a reason why unofficial clients have workarounds for the limit
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I’m in 23 different discord servers. Tech, hacking, DIY, cars, music, etc.
Bro got down voted for telling the unwashed masses to practice some vigilance and personal responsibility. Fuck…
how is it my problem if an emote server i joined years ago and never even opened since turns bad?
how is it my problem that a hidden channel i never saw broke TOS?
people get banned for both
get off people’s asses for not being discord batmans hunting down TOS violations across every channel, every day in every server they join. we’re not paid discord admins and we’re not doing their goddamn work for them, besides even those reporting can get banned.
content like this should be removed yes but proximity to it shouldn’t get you banned. Do you think it would be a good idea to arrest an entire block of flats because one resident turned out to be a criminal? Do you think it would be bright to expect every single resident to have figured out a crime was about to happen and leave for the duration of it?
*for telling people they are responsible for what others do in a chatroom they may look at once and then ignore.
I am in discords I never engage with, but literally only have as a place I can search for answers, like a niche alternative to stack overflow. It is absurd for me to be held to the standard of policing everything that happens on those servers just in case some of it might be bad. Discords can also have permissions limited viewing. Are we supposed to know what happens in the channels we can’t see?
More importantly, despite how much work it is to do so, punishments have to be applied on an individual level. Punishing people who are in a class is too vague.
You know that some servers can have tens of thousands of people right?
What’s your point? That personal responsibly stops existing in a large group of people?
I mean, Lemmy used to have a big issue with CSAM being spammed by malicious users. Many people believed that it was pro-Reddit trolls, because it started happening right around the same time as the giant API debacle. It was a huge liability for the instance owners, because their server would automatically cache the content and they could be held liable for the CSAM being present on their server. It took a few months of dev time to add moderation tools, blacklisting, setting up automods, etc before it finally calmed down to the point that instance owners felt comfortable again.
By your logic, every single user in instances that got spammed should be banned. Because even if they didn’t see it, or interact with it in any way, they’re still personally responsible for it. After all, personal responsibility doesn’t stop existing in a large group of people.
So, what you’re saying is, if someone on your Lemmy instance breaks the rules of another instance, your entire instance should be defederated, right?
Just because they’re part of the server doesn’t mean they knew it was there.
Presumption of innocence is a thing, you know?
In 2020 some small servers (50-200 people per server) got cover banned with all their users, mostly for political talk, as far as I’m aware.
I, personally, usually join such small servers while looking for lobby members in older games, I have a couple of them muted except for channels dedicated specifically to game lobbies. If someone starts an “illegal” talk in any other channel on one of these, why should I be held liable? Or am I suddenly obligated to hunt for pipe bomb recipes in any server I join?
Anon’s big mistake was not being the President of the Gulf of America.
Lost yearly Nitro and all my friends
That’s sadder than he seems to understand it is.
I know “lol anon has no friends” is le epic funny meme but by friends, they obviously meant their contacts.
I have a lot of people, I’d consider friends, that I only communicate with through discord. If I lost my account, I’d likely never hear from them again. Kinda get it.
This is why people should be worried of using these massive services, luckily it was ‘only’ Discord (if this was your primary way to interact with friends, this can be a huge deal).
But imagine if it was your email account!
Getting a reputable provider, self hosting or using a decentralized option is paramount for your own sanity.
Currently having problems with GMail I lost my old phone (2fA) and no device was logged in so i could not access steam and like everything that requires that old mail
And my phone provider or postal service is stupid because i could not get a replacement sim after multiple tries which normally works
Googles account recovery policy is basically:
- 2fA
- recovery email
- create a new account x.x
I think the recovery mail option only gets unlocked after 6? months inactivity because ~3 months ago i did not have the option
Now after requesting a recovery i still have to wait a full month before they maybe send me a password reset to my moms mail
But steam support was nice. Managed to get the account by providing a product key i used a few months ago and was lucky enough not to have thrown the physical card away
There was that man who was all in on Google.
He had a telemedicine appointment for his son who had a problem with his penis. Dr asked him to send a close-up photo so he could diagnose the skin condition
So the guy takes the photo with his pixel phone and sends it
The phone automatically backs up the photo
Google’s AI says it’s child porn, his account is deleted and police are contacted
Police look into it and say “not porn, totally fine” but have to go to his house to tell him the was no problem because his phone was Google, his internet was Google fibre, his email was Gmail and his photo album was on Google and all that was irrevocably deleted
That’s insane
Yep. Guy had his life pretty much ruined. Don’t tether your life to a company — they don’t care about you, they have no duty toward you
Anon forgot to put their interpersonal relationships in a RAID array
And I’m not looking forwards to the effort it is going to take to get my friends to migrate away from discord. It was hard enough to get them on discord in the first place.
On this topic: I currently have installed on my phone and computer: slack, zoom, MSTeams, element, discord, Facebook messenger and signal to communicate in various projects and friends. What is this madness?!
Add telegram, threema, another matrix client for that other server and WhatsApp for some old friends to it
Same happened to me but with animal cruelty content or something. I tried to get the account back but turns out it was a “ban wave” so a lot of other people who got banned but were innocent were doing the same so discords services got overwhelmed by the appeals. Maybe they should have realized after that that this kinda banning is a horrible approach.
Never understood why anyone would want to pay 100$ a year for discord, the paid version doesnt give you that much imo
Which is a good monetation system. Premium users barely get anything but still enough to pay, while free users can do pretty much everything too.
personally the $3 a month nitro is worth it for me, considering how much I use it. I know Lemmy hates anything capitalist but a coffee a month isnt that much
Personally, Discord has facilitated a long distance relationship with my now wife, and nearly ten years of weekly TTRPG games. I don’t mind the cost because they cannot provide that service for free forever, and I think it’s worth it for what I get out of it. The other benefits they add for paying are almost just bonuses to me after that.
you could also pay to host some shit like mumble.
Mumble does not look like a replacement for all the things I use Discord for.
I pay $30 a year for Nitro Basic. It’s only $2.50 a month and worth it to me with how much I use it.
You don’t wanna pay $100 for a bunch of useless stickers and random features that don’t need to be in a chat program? Whaaaaaat? That’s weird. /s
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I mean, if you’re on 4chan…
This was my first thought.
Obviously did some shit then trying to gain sympathy like omg I was banned for being nice.
Lost yearly Nitro
You cuck.
I created a Discord account so I could try Midjourney and my account got blocked within a few hours. I use a VPN most of the time, can’t remember if I was with Discord so might have had the same IP as another user. Didn’t bother to set up another account.
They block most VPNs outright.
All the more reason to not use Discord imo.
gosh, that makes me feel really nervous