Woke up to my computer being updated to W11 from W10, not too happy about that. I want to use massgrave to change my window to W10 LTSC.
I am not interested in Linux.
So, I went to massgrave.dev and did the script, hit 1, etc. It just say something about permanent changed to key or whatever.
So I went download W10 LTSC iso, hit setup.exe and it asked me for product key. I entered my key, say it’s not right one.
So could somebody run me step by step how to go about it? I’m not really tech savvy. I want literal step by step, telling me exactly what to do.
Thank you.
Edit: folks didn’t really provide step by step here. But I managed to do it. I activiated script via powershell and hit change edition, changed it to LTSC. And then I downloaded window 10 consumer version from massgrave and run setup.exe and done. You might have to do first step shown in first part of massgrave.dev.
So my pc went from w10 to w11 (woyhouy my approval) to w11 LTSC, to w10 IoT enterprise. I’m good now.
I am not interested in Linux.
Pretty much, everyone praise Linux here. I tried few favors of Linux, could never get into it. They say you have total control over it and yet I struggled with terminal blocking me from doing anything unless I run right commands and stuff like that. Looking for hidden files and all. I just gave up. Windows is just too convenient for me.
lsto list files
ls -ato list all files (including hidden)
ls -lto list files with their attributes
ls -lato list all files with their attributesYou can add a path after the command and parameters if you want to look in a folder you’re not in.
Don’t hate the OS for a skill issue, learn the basics, it’s way more efficient and you can even bring some of it back to Windows in PowerShell.
Linux is way easier to use once you break up with Windows. Hell, you can pretty much bump around in just the desktop environment if you really wanted - especially in something like Ubuntu where there are GUI applications for like everything.
They say you have total control over it
You do.
yet I struggled with terminal blocking me from doing anything unless I run right commands
I mean, would you prefer the terminal simply guess at what you’re trying to do and execute random commands?
Looking for hidden files and all.
[xanza@dev ~]$ ll total 76 drwxr-sr-x 11 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 15 02:05 ./ drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Mar 10 22:16 ../ -rw------- 1 xanza xanza 8677 Mar 15 02:05 .bash_history -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 887 Mar 13 19:26 .bashrc drwxr-sr-x 5 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 12 22:37 .cache/ -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 484 Mar 15 01:38 .caddy drwxr-sr-x 9 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 12 22:32 .config/ drwx--S--- 3 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 11 21:23 .docker/ -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 52 Mar 10 23:13 .gitconfig drwxr-sr-x 3 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 10 23:05 .go/ drwxr-sr-x 6 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 12 18:47 .local/ -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 49 Mar 10 23:41 .profile drwxr-sr-x 2 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 10 22:38 .sockets/ drwxr-sr-x 2 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 10 22:27 .ssh/ drwxr-sr-x 3 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 15 01:20 .vim/ drwxr-sr-x 4 xanza xanza 4096 Mar 10 23:08 go/ -rw-r--r-- 1 xanza xanza 267 Mar 12 18:31 justfileHidden files in *nix are dotfiles; files which are literally hidden from view because they’re appended with a
..The gracefulness of how the point flew right over your head was breathtaking
ll is an alias of
ls -lanot all distros will knowllby default unless you add it to your aliases.I was demonstrating the ease of showing hidden files, not proselytizing that
llis in every distro… Not sure what you’re trying to accomplish with this post.Not sure what you’re trying to accomplish with this post.
Probably trying to stop OP from typing
llin a distro where it doesn’t exist and getting even more entrenched in their belief that Linux is hard.Again, you’re completely missing the point here. Focusing on the wrong thing. Goose for the gander.
You can’t really downgrade Windows.
If you’ve downloaded Windows 10 LTSC from massgrave, then you need to burn it to a CD (lol) or put it on a USB drive and completely re-install Windows.
Then when you’ve setup windows, execute the massgrave script to activate windows permanently. Then, while you’re at it, you can grab Privatezilla which allows you to completely disable forced windows updates so this won’t happen to you again.
You have to install Windows LTSC fresh then run massgrave. Product keys for the versions of Windows are different
I’m pretty sure your supposed to set up W10 first (press “I don’t have a product key”) and then run the script after it puts you in
You need to wipe your drive and reinstall windows in order to switch to the ltsc branch.
This said, are you aware that windows 10 dies in October and any security issues (~50 discovered every month, although not all very serious) won’t get patched anymore?
Better get used now to w11 or Linux rather than next year after automatically getting a ransomware and losing all your data after visiting a dodgy site
I’ve read somewhere that Microsoft will be charging for extended windows 10 support. And I’ve also read that somebody is planning a project to be able to download the windows 10 extended support patches without Microsoft. Can’t remember where I read it
Remember when Microsoft said Win10 would be the last windows? That would have been cool.
Yeah it would have. Microsoft sucks 😆
I thought LTSC have 10 years support?
LTSC IOT does
Just FYI. Microsoft Windows IoT is Microsoft Windows Enterprise. They are the same thing. Saying “IOT does” as if they’re not the same thing is incorrect.
There’s LTSC and LTSC IOT. And they’re both Enterprise. The difference is 5 years support and 10 years support.
Only if you install w10 1809 that was released in 2018. It is ancient and missing so many features that’s almost using another operating system. But at least will get security updates until 2028
Otherwise they altered the deal, latest ltsc was released in 2021 with only 5 years of security updates
On the Enterprise channel, it does. Until 2032, IIRC. So you’ll need either Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC, or Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC.
2032 is only for iot version that’s designed for ATM and similar appliances, missing too many features to be considered a good alternative
- IoT was not designed at all for ATMs. Windows IoT, also known as Windows embedded was designed for low power, embedded systems which in exactly zero ways describes ATMs. The banking industry has decided to use this version of Windows because it comes with the features they need with the longest support channel. That’s it. IoT was not designed for ATMs.
- Windows IoT is Windows Enterprise. They are the same thing:
Windows IoT Enterprise is a full version of Windows Enterprise that delivers enterprise manageability and security to IoT solutions. 1
Windows Enterprise (including Windows IoT) LTSC ends mainstream support Jan 12, 2027, and security updates will continue until 2032.
https://rentry.co/MR-EverythingWindowsExplained#installing-windows has further info, but tl;dr- install without a key, then use MASgrave after it’s installed.
