While I definitely get that she shouldn’t have left them sitting out, is it not the fault of the kids randomly eating other peoples food without permission that the food ended up being much more “not for them” than it already would have been?
Well, I suppose just cuz the article doesn’t mention the kids getting in their fair share of trouble doesn’t mean they didn’t, including underage kids in a news article is a hassle and barely worth doing when they are the main or only part of a story.
Eating a parents food is a little more understandable, though still not something a kid should do without permission. Eating a teachers food, is down right actual stealing. It is different even if the teacher is supposed to act like a parent, though I haven’t heard of that being the case, if anything teachers are restricted from acting like parents to the children.
They may have some legal burden, but it doesn’t mean it should be treated exactly as if they are the parents in every situation.
But I did say it was fair that the teacher got in trouble, just thought it odd initially that it doesn’t mention the kids repercussions, til I thought about the hurdles involved in writing that bit of the article and assumed they just didn’t bother.
I dont agree with yiur reasoning that its partly the kids’ fault. Sure, it could have been avoided by either the teacher or the kids, but the responsibility lies with the teacher 100%. Imagine they left a bottle of vodka in the classroom, or a gun. You cant say “yeah sorry your son shot himself with my gun but to be fair he shouldnt have touched it.”
So, it’s your opinion that the kids did nothing wrong by stealing and eating the teachers food? They aren’t even partly responsible?
So the parents get their kids home and they are ok with the kids stealing the teachers food, the teacher shouldn’t have had food in the classroom since kids are allowed to just steal whatever they want.
I’m not arguing that she wasn’t wrong, I state multiple times that she was wrong. He’s arguing the kids aren’t wrong at all. I maintain the kids also did something wrong.
is it not the fault of the kids randomly eating other peoples food without permission that the food ended up being much more “not for them” than it already would have been?
Have you ever been in a high school? You might as try to ask ant eaters to not eat ants. You might as well tell hedgehogs to not collect gold rings. You might as well tell leaves to not fall. No, it’s not the kid’s fault, it’s fucking candy in a school.
I don’t get what you are saying? The kids didn’t do anything wrong? Or they shouldn’t also be in trouble? I don’t get why everyone is saying the kids should be allowed to steal?
Yes I have been to high school, no kids didn’t steal food from the teachers in my high school. But even if they did, they would have been wrong to do so…
Is it really a common thing nowadays for kids to steal from teachers? And not considered wrong when they do?
I really thought the reason it didn’t mention the trouble the kids got in was just cuz including underage children in news articles has to be so redacted as to essentially be pointless unless they are the main focus of the article. Not that they are considered to have not done anything wrong nowadays.
I feel like you went to a very non-american school or you lived in some magical place where teenagers in high schools didn’t act like normal teenagers. Most reasonable, intelligent administrators and teachers and staff know to “kid proof” everything, and if it’s not behind locks or bolted down, you can expect someone at some point is going to get into it, break it, open it, etc.
Whether or not they got in any kind of trouble is going to be far, far lower or less of a priority to even report than the irresponsibility of the teacher bringing in drugs to school property. It’s just a weird thing for you to be hung up on and seems like your experiences of schools are pretty different from a lot of other people.
I don’t get why everyone is saying the kids should be allowed to steal?
Nobody said that. Nobody even implied it. They said that a teacher should know that leaving FUCKING DRUGS THAT LOOK LIKE CANDY sitting out in plain sight around a bunch of kids is grossly negligent. Just having them on school grounds is illegal. Not to mention they’re pretty sure she was driving while impaired. These are the criminal charges against her. She didn’t force the kids to take drugs, and that’s not what she’s charged with. Whether or not the kids face any legal penalties is irrelevant to any of that information, and nobody understands why you think it’s so important to know.
At worst, the kids committed petty theft. A misdemeanor. For a minor that would mean essentially no serious consequences.
Is that not what the other commenters here are arguing? Cuz even when I ask them if that’s what they are saying they keep answering like it is what they are saying, that I must not have gone to an american school. No, I didn’t go to an american school, is it really that bad there? Like Canada is right next to the states, it can’t be that much worse just crossing one border.
While I definitely get that she shouldn’t have left them sitting out, is it not the fault of the kids randomly eating other peoples food without permission that the food ended up being much more “not for them” than it already would have been?
Well, I suppose just cuz the article doesn’t mention the kids getting in their fair share of trouble doesn’t mean they didn’t, including underage kids in a news article is a hassle and barely worth doing when they are the main or only part of a story.
It is absolutely her fault. School staff operate under in loco parentis, meaning they’re legally acting as the parent while the child is at school.
Parents can and should be charged with negligence when they leave drugs in a place where children found and consumed them.
Eating a parents food is a little more understandable, though still not something a kid should do without permission. Eating a teachers food, is down right actual stealing. It is different even if the teacher is supposed to act like a parent, though I haven’t heard of that being the case, if anything teachers are restricted from acting like parents to the children.
They may have some legal burden, but it doesn’t mean it should be treated exactly as if they are the parents in every situation.
But I did say it was fair that the teacher got in trouble, just thought it odd initially that it doesn’t mention the kids repercussions, til I thought about the hurdles involved in writing that bit of the article and assumed they just didn’t bother.
I dont agree with yiur reasoning that its partly the kids’ fault. Sure, it could have been avoided by either the teacher or the kids, but the responsibility lies with the teacher 100%. Imagine they left a bottle of vodka in the classroom, or a gun. You cant say “yeah sorry your son shot himself with my gun but to be fair he shouldnt have touched it.”
So, it’s your opinion that the kids did nothing wrong by stealing and eating the teachers food? They aren’t even partly responsible?
So the parents get their kids home and they are ok with the kids stealing the teachers food, the teacher shouldn’t have had food in the classroom since kids are allowed to just steal whatever they want.
The kids doing something wrong doesn’t absolve the teacher of wrongdoing. They committed a dick move; she committed a crime.
What she did was neglectful, full stop. She created the situation that allowed a child access to drugs.
I’m not arguing that she wasn’t wrong, I state multiple times that she was wrong. He’s arguing the kids aren’t wrong at all. I maintain the kids also did something wrong.
Have you ever been in a high school? You might as try to ask ant eaters to not eat ants. You might as well tell hedgehogs to not collect gold rings. You might as well tell leaves to not fall. No, it’s not the kid’s fault, it’s fucking candy in a school.
I don’t get what you are saying? The kids didn’t do anything wrong? Or they shouldn’t also be in trouble? I don’t get why everyone is saying the kids should be allowed to steal?
Yes I have been to high school, no kids didn’t steal food from the teachers in my high school. But even if they did, they would have been wrong to do so…
Is it really a common thing nowadays for kids to steal from teachers? And not considered wrong when they do?
I really thought the reason it didn’t mention the trouble the kids got in was just cuz including underage children in news articles has to be so redacted as to essentially be pointless unless they are the main focus of the article. Not that they are considered to have not done anything wrong nowadays.
I feel like you went to a very non-american school or you lived in some magical place where teenagers in high schools didn’t act like normal teenagers. Most reasonable, intelligent administrators and teachers and staff know to “kid proof” everything, and if it’s not behind locks or bolted down, you can expect someone at some point is going to get into it, break it, open it, etc.
Whether or not they got in any kind of trouble is going to be far, far lower or less of a priority to even report than the irresponsibility of the teacher bringing in drugs to school property. It’s just a weird thing for you to be hung up on and seems like your experiences of schools are pretty different from a lot of other people.
Nobody said that. Nobody even implied it. They said that a teacher should know that leaving FUCKING DRUGS THAT LOOK LIKE CANDY sitting out in plain sight around a bunch of kids is grossly negligent. Just having them on school grounds is illegal. Not to mention they’re pretty sure she was driving while impaired. These are the criminal charges against her. She didn’t force the kids to take drugs, and that’s not what she’s charged with. Whether or not the kids face any legal penalties is irrelevant to any of that information, and nobody understands why you think it’s so important to know.
At worst, the kids committed petty theft. A misdemeanor. For a minor that would mean essentially no serious consequences.
What a bizarre take on this story.
Is that not what the other commenters here are arguing? Cuz even when I ask them if that’s what they are saying they keep answering like it is what they are saying, that I must not have gone to an american school. No, I didn’t go to an american school, is it really that bad there? Like Canada is right next to the states, it can’t be that much worse just crossing one border.