I’m just there for the porn, these days. Any sort of meaningful interaction with people happens elsewhere.

Attacking any remaining trust in the US government, I see.

These things happen. My father served on a CV long ago, and he claimed that they pushed several aircraft over the side if they were deemed unreparable out of ship resources.

EDIT: Also, I think that’s the first Houthi kill of an F-18.

That will be helpful, but for ducks sake. . .

Can we please get some sanity in the white house?

One-Person, One-Vote is the generally recognized answer.

Yes, that is the general answer for who gets to vote. But as I describe, that doesn’t guarantee fair.

To get what we think democracy means, we need as fair system, (who gets to vote) and a fair election. (votes counted properly)

But you’re missing my point. I’m not arguing that a restricted voter population is a good thing. I’m arguing that it’s still a democracy, provided it meets certain qualifications. I’m arguing that words have meanings, and that we shouldn’t be letting 1960 anti-red patriotism trick is into thinking that “democracy” means anything more than leaders appointed by voting.

A bad democracy is still a democracy. An unfair democracy is still a democracy. A corrupt democracy may be a democracy, depending on the nature of the corruption.

And the Wright Flyer was an airplane.

Carefully trimmed sticker?

EDIT: Ah, I see you’ve handled it. Carry on, then.

Should be possible to just not plug them in.

But I have no idea why they are there in the first place.

This depend very much on how you define “fair,” and how it is used in context.

So, I would say a system that only let’s white male landowners vote is not “fair” because only an elite group gets to vote. But if their votes are counted properly, and their decision upheld, the election is “fair,” and it’s a democracy.

On the other hand, a system that lets everyone over 18 vote is arguably “fair.” But if the votes are not counted correctly, and the results are false, then the election is not “fair,” and you don’t have a democracy.

To further the thought, I suppose that if the voting populating is a small enough percentage of the general populating, then it is not a democracy, rather than just a bad democracy. Not sure where that line is, though.

Yea. If we counted popular vote, rather than EC, that would not qualify him for president.

I’m not actually sure what happens if no candidate gets a majority.

It’s not a good democracy, no. The fact that Trump is not following the rules suggests that it isn’t a democracy at all, since we are voting for stick figures, not leaders. But he was elected fair and square, at least until we find evidence otherwise.

And again, “democracy” doesn’t mean “good,” or “fair” or “virtuous.” We are none of those things right now, weather we are a democracy or not.

I’m prepared to argue that fake voting doesn’t count.

we count ancient Greece as a democracy, don’t we?

Last I checked, democracy didn’t mean “fair,” it ment that the leaders were voted into power.

I’m not suggesting that America before Trump was a paragon of virtue. But our corrupt leaders and wealthy oligarchs made America powerful to serve their own ends.

Trump is not serving the ends of American oligarchs. He’s serving the ends of Russian oligarchs.

It’s not a one-size fits all, that’s for sure. But I have no subscriptions to anything, and I wouldn’t describe anything I do with “work flow.”

it’s absolutely insane to conclude that Russia controls western governments.

Maybe not governments in general, but Trump and his party specifically, doesn’t seem too insane.

Don’t even have to do crime. You can usually email the author, and they will send you a copy, quite legitimately.

I’ve done it myself a few times.

In the old scam, I believe you world indeed get a book with the names of everyone who paid to get a book with the names of everyone who paid to get the book.

In that order.

Israel isn’t responsible for Trump remarkable attempts at destroying the US economy, USD, and the entirety of their softpower.

No, but they helped get him elected.

Not sure they did it on purpose, and it only affected the stupidest of Democrat voters, but any argument that the genocide in Palestine didn’t impact our election is not being honest.

Bloody Cardys can’t be trusted.