• Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    It was a 2.5 hour slog to get through some very ham fisted political commentary and philosophical ideas about the worth of a clone with an “original” still alive. Moon and Star Trek cover the ideas way better and in less time.

  • jet@hackertalks.com
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    2 days ago

    It’s a fairly horrible movie.

    The brain scan and brain upload mechanic doesn’t account for perfect recall of deaths (no ability to brain scan after death), the mickeys should only have memories up to their last brain scan, so no mickey should have any memories of death.

    It’s like one really long SNL skit, over the top political commentary with a very minor scifi flavor.

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      I was wondering how they were planning on doing the “memory after death” as that seemed like a major thing that would need to be accounted for that I was hoping would have some cool explanation.

      Oh well. Not a big fan of Pattinson anyways. Thanks for the honest review! :)

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    4 days ago

    This is pretty much exactly where I would exact an arty, anticapitalist lark of a movie to land. Anyone thinking this would do much more than $40m globally this weekend was probably fooling themselves.

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    4 days ago

    LOL this is no Dune: Part Two blockbuster. Stop pretending that its supposed to be one.

    Ruffalo does a solid, loathsome Trump.

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    4 days ago

    It’s barely afternoon on Saturday as I read this - I don’t get how they can decide it bombed already. Feels like someone’s trying to make it bomb.

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        4 days ago

        Maybe a little bit, but everything after the beginning of the movie seemed to take place in more of a monarchy situation where roles and resources are allocated directly by the ship/colony leadership and the only apparent economy was the black markets for drugs and extra rations.

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          4 days ago

          The book is pretty clear on themes, and fascism is only distinguished from a truly absolute monarchy in the respects you mention by their laws of succession.

          Fascism, btw, per Mussolini and Gentile, is the merger of state and corporation. At at least a small scale it will absolutely try to function without a market and pay its workers directly with necessities while using the withholding of such as both punishment and means of persecution.

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            4 days ago

            They said capitalism, not fascism, I can see how the movie is being critical of fascism, but the primary setting seems distinctly un-capitalist to me.

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              3 days ago

              Same end goal.

              Just an FYI: the book also describes the fate of a colony world called Galt that gets genocided and consumed by a hyper-capitalist’s clone army. The logic is simple. He wants more clones, and the best source of more biomatter fit for making clones is human bodies. He’s also been told all his life that he’s a superior life form, so what use is anyone “lesser?” It doesn’t matter that the Galtists consider themselves “rugged individualists”, they are less thans and therefore useless beyond making his numbers go up.

              The book and setting is not shy about criticizing capitalism’s commodification of human life and disregard for suffering. It’s the entire point of how Expendables are treated, lol.

              I don’t doubt that a movie had less time to make some of the themes more obvious, but they’d have had to completely remove the concept for it not to be clear.