• madgepickles@lemmy.world
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    because even if they were illegal immigrants, that doesn’t justify this. That’s a civil offense. There’s no justification for these actions. I’m ready in my house for them and when they break in, I’m opening fire. and I’ll go on record about why and I’ll say i hope this makes every ice agent quit their jobs in fear for their lives.

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    Lesson: Before you move into a new rental, find out who was there before and how long it’s been empty. I can see this situation happening a lot as more targeted people move to avoid being found, and unknowing people move into the vacated rental unit.

    Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”

    “I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here,” she said. “I have to feed my children. I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.”

    As for Marissa’s phones, electronics, and cash, they have no idea which agency has those belongings or how to get those items back.

    They’re totally fucked. Each agency that was there denies responsibility and refers them to the next, which does the same.

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      No, fuck that. You can’t reasonably expect to spend 300 hours a year doing research in all manner of different matters to make sure they accidentally don’t end up getting rocked by the cops. How about the cops do some fucking research before they yeet a flashbang in with a baby and deny responsibility?

      This whole situation is a “should never happen” that, in a just world, would at least cost someone their job.

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    Oklahoma has a lot of laws saying you can shoot anyone on your property and in your residence.

    I’m surprised their wasn’t a shootout, but don’t worry that day is fast approaching.

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      The problem with the fantasy of home invasion is that you don’t get a fifteen minute notice to pull all your guns out and bunker down like you’re a Vietcong guerrilla.

      And anyone who thinks “if a cop breaks into my home, I’ll just shot them and that’ll be that” needs to learn about Ruby Ridge.

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        Atatiana Jefferson was shot because the cops were snooping around her property. You dont even ha e to have the cops break in to get shot

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          I mean, that was back during the halcyon era of prosecuting police officers who shoot civilians in their sleep. The offending officer received 11 years, 10 months, and 12 days - the jury picked the date of the shooting for the sentence - for manslaughter.

          But this was back in 2022 when the Dallas PD was Woke. Can’t imagine it happening today without a gubernatorial pardon in the mix.

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      I feel used to it. We had concentration camps during the FDR admin, and we’ve had gestapo since shortly after 9/11. Trump didn’t turn the US into shit, all he did was smear it on our faces.

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                Is this free association?

                Do you know what the Gestapo was? Abu Griahb is not analogous at all. Two completely different (both awful) things.

                Your photos were taken in Afghanistan.

                The Gestapo operated domestically

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                  You’re splitting hairs. The United States arreats people without warrants, holds them indefinitely without trial, tortures them, and kills them. It’s been doing so for over 20 years. I don’t care where they’re doing it. I care that they’re doing it. You can “no true gestapo” at me all day long but that’s close enough for me.

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    Ah, they robbed them too while they were at it. If they take your shit and give no information on how to get it back, how is it not stolen?

    I guess anyone moving to a new address should assume the gestapo can show up whenever they please looking for former residents.

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      Like how is this even possible. The whole “home invasion” style of enforcement is itself dystopian and wrong, but once you’re all done you should have some clear paperwork and accountability to hand out. That they don’t have it indicates the people involved don’t believe in due process or public accountability.

      Were these people even real agents? How could she even verify that? No one should need to “look into” the matter. There should be a case number, organization, and point of contact on an official form for her. They aren’t the people and that should be easy to verify with a day, give them their stuff back.

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        Were these people even real agents? How could she even verify that?

        Hard to say. Two of the three agencies that identified themselves to her (FBI and US Marshals) later denied having agents there.

        Either they’re lying or shit is real disorganized. Or both. It’s probably both.

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          You know Hanlon’s razor? We need an addendum to it that I’ll be calling Trump’s razor: under the current administration, if there’s a possible explanation that’s both malicious AND stupid, that’s the most likely one.