Basic facts,l:

  • Hasan clipped out of context by destiny fans and goes viral on r/lsf
  • contra boosted it
  • Hasan goes on a full rant against contra starting at 8:10 in if you want no context

If this clip were a Lemmy post we’d get at least three taglines from quoting it (maybe someone wants to transcribe it if there’s something that’s with it?)

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    Hasan clipped out of context

    He wasn’t even clipped out of context, he was simply correct and making a valuable point, but the lsf title simply lied about what he said in the clip and of course none of the pedo lovers or PhD Contra bothered to actually watch it

    Also bots upvoting like crazy

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    no matter how brilliant you think they are, they’re actually just stupid … Including “PhD Contrapoints” over here…

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    The struggle of finding some way to blame Kamala eating shit on people who don’t want to be actively complicit in facilitating a genocide continues.

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    Natalie helped pipeline me into the left media space, and I respect the extent to which she deradicalized some number of alt-right or would-be alt-right men. But she is plain dog doo. And I say that assessing her work prior to coming out as ambivalent to the “israeli” genocide. Shows what a taste of the Democrat funding stream can do.

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      I respect the extent to which she deradicalized some number of alt-right or would-be alt-right men.

      Only for the Democrats to turn them back into Hitler with a coat of blue paint with her help, lol. agony-mescaline

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      Unironically she was a big part of getting me out of the right pipeline and I’m forever grateful for that. Then she fucking decided to jump right in after me and become a 3rd way privileged as fuck Democrat and distanced herself from all the content worth a damn to make useless thought pieces with very little actual thought in them and simp for the Clintons. Pretty disappointing arc ngl.

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        That is tough, I’m happy for you. The reactionary slop machine is strong and it’s signal boosted by YouTube. Natalie being very online and irony poisoned made her good at relating to that audience.

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        I think its more that she just hit all of her success and basically has a bootstraps mentality at this point. Incidentally, her content transitioned from good, derailing right wing talking to points to navel gazing liberal superiority with her own transition and success. I think the financial security made her confident in her personal security and liberal tendencies and it bled into everything.

  • Look, why care? There are people writing actually good theory and like creat books to read. Or I could take a walk and touch grass. I refuse to care about debatebros who keep platforming fascists, even if they are apparently “left-wing”. And like sure contra is shit, but the attention seems disproportionate. There are thousands of women like her. Why not just ignore her? This is just influencer drama.

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      debatebros

      i say this not as any defense of hasan’s many shortcomings, or of contra, but if you think either of them is a “debatebro” you know too little about this to have an opinion and can just carry on ignoring streamers and youtubers.

    • And like sure contra is shit, but the attention seems disproportionate.

      Women with atrocious opinions always get disproportionate attention for their shit takes, and that goes tenfold when we’re trans women. I hate that i have to say this when it’s about an arrogant liberal who built her career on whining about being cancelled for being a truscum piece of shit, but just look at this thread, people genuinely get more upset about Contra than Destiny, who doesn’t get mentioned once in the entire thread outside of the OP.

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          He doesn’t have to do anything except maintain a rabid fan base that does this shit for him. He also has Dan Saltman at his side, directing a lot of this activity via Discord. Live Stream Fails has been under orbiter control for many years now. If anything, the willingness to accept the disingenuous framing presented by these orbiters speaks volumes about Contra’s abundant liberalism, which is not unique; any garden variety liberal would do the same. That’s precisely the kind of worldview Dan Saltman and Destiny attach themselves to like a parasite. Saying “Destiny didn’t do anything here.” is wildly inacurate; he’s been doing everything possible to build a following of dipshits to act on his behalf. It isn’t stochastic terrorism; I hesitate to draw that comparison, but it shares a genealogy. He isn’t devoid of responsibility simply because he didn’t cut the video himself, post it, and expose Contra to it.

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            Stochastic harassment? I feel like we need a term for this because the rise of “”“influencers”“” has also given really rise to some of the most abominable behaviours I’ve seen online, but now done by large masses of rabid cult followers.

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      I think you can go to c/comm_request and motion to have c/gossip deleted if you’d like, but this community has always embraced this kind of garbage.