• Vopyr@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    A garbage deal. Trump and his incompetent administration are shitting on our heads and obviously want Ukraine to surrender, so why should we sign a deal with them? It’s idiotic.

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      9 days ago

      Continued intelligence & weapons. We saw what happened when they cut off intelligence last time. It doesn’t change the fact that the US has become an unreliable partner for Europe. Let’s hope that the fire under our bums is enough to enact real change.

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        9 days ago

        How much more of our land and resources do we have to sell in order to get Trump to pull his head out of his ass? It’s all very sad.

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          I haven’t dug in to the details about this deal, but what I’ve gathered doesn’t seem all bad. Joint operation with US to benefit both countries, where Ukraine brings in their resources and the US brings in capital to actually make something useful out of it.

          And sure, I don’t like how the deal was more or less force fed and the initial draft was an insult to the Ukraine, but at the end there’s at least a silver lining. Plus now there’s US incentive to not allow any land for Russia as a lot of those resources are in currently occupied areas. Some might argue that it was even a good deal, at least considering how twisted the power balance was on negotiations where Trump and his circus seemed to be willing to throw all western principles out of the window.

          But in the long run, I really hope that EU can get their heads out of their asses and actually do something instead of endless discussions. EU, with Ukraine, would be a pretty significant global power if they choose to be.