By that logic, Hitler/Nazis should have finished the job too so there would be world peace. If millenia of history and the present is anything to go by, nations keep going to war with each other, so coexistence will never work in the long term.
You can’t act like Israel was just peacefully minding its own business when Hamas attacked. Israel was founded by ethnic cleansing and had been slowly trying to finish the job for decades by forcing Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas, taking control of their utilities and resources, and depriving them of their rights. Oct. 7th gave Israel an excuse to escalate what they had already been doing.
I love how you guys try to push this dishonest argument that everything started in 1948. It did not. Things happened before that. There was violence on both sides, with full blown pogroms breaking out in 1920, 1921, and 1929. Arabs were offered a much bigger chunk of the region, they refused it because they wanted all of the land which would have meant the eradication of the jews in the region, much as has occurred elsewhere throughout the middle east. The Jews fought back with Israel and people like you just don’t seem to like it.
I’m so tired of getting in this repeated argument about this very same thing with people like you who just refuse to acknowledge history before 1948. The history matters, no matter how much you want to try to ignore it.
Jews and arabs have always lived in the region. The notion that an ethnostate is necessary because it’s the only way for them to be safe is a propaganda myth and also inherently illogical.
what the hell are you talking about? look at the jewish populations in nearly every single country in the middle east compared to what they were at the beginning of the 20th century.
I will block anyone who tries to be this disingenuous with their statements. You aren’t worth my time.
The comparison I’m making is to Nazi Germany’s war for global domination. So yes, there was Jewish armed resistance in occupied Europe.
Now, I don’t condone Hamas’s massacre of civilians and hostage taking. I do believe Palestinians have a right to armed resistance in the face of Israel’s control over Palestinian sovereignty and the continued extreme injustices they’ve been inflicting on Palestinians collectively.
I was pointing to a distinction in the logic of “rightness”. If you ignore morality, then yes, eradicating a population will effectively stop groups within it from continuing to attack you in the future. However, with morality, genocide is wrong. It’s the same reason why wiping Israel off the map would finish things and end the IDF’s war crimes. However, it would still be morally wrong.
By that logic, Hitler/Nazis should have finished the job too so there would be world peace. If millenia of history and the present is anything to go by, nations keep going to war with each other, so coexistence will never work in the long term.
Were the jews violently attacking the germans prior to the holocaust?
You can’t act like Israel was just peacefully minding its own business when Hamas attacked. Israel was founded by ethnic cleansing and had been slowly trying to finish the job for decades by forcing Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas, taking control of their utilities and resources, and depriving them of their rights. Oct. 7th gave Israel an excuse to escalate what they had already been doing.
I love how you guys try to push this dishonest argument that everything started in 1948. It did not. Things happened before that. There was violence on both sides, with full blown pogroms breaking out in 1920, 1921, and 1929. Arabs were offered a much bigger chunk of the region, they refused it because they wanted all of the land which would have meant the eradication of the jews in the region, much as has occurred elsewhere throughout the middle east. The Jews fought back with Israel and people like you just don’t seem to like it.
I’m so tired of getting in this repeated argument about this very same thing with people like you who just refuse to acknowledge history before 1948. The history matters, no matter how much you want to try to ignore it.
Jews and arabs have always lived in the region. The notion that an ethnostate is necessary because it’s the only way for them to be safe is a propaganda myth and also inherently illogical.
what the hell are you talking about? look at the jewish populations in nearly every single country in the middle east compared to what they were at the beginning of the 20th century.
I will block anyone who tries to be this disingenuous with their statements. You aren’t worth my time.
The comparison I’m making is to Nazi Germany’s war for global domination. So yes, there was Jewish armed resistance in occupied Europe. Now, I don’t condone Hamas’s massacre of civilians and hostage taking. I do believe Palestinians have a right to armed resistance in the face of Israel’s control over Palestinian sovereignty and the continued extreme injustices they’ve been inflicting on Palestinians collectively.
I was pointing to a distinction in the logic of “rightness”. If you ignore morality, then yes, eradicating a population will effectively stop groups within it from continuing to attack you in the future. However, with morality, genocide is wrong. It’s the same reason why wiping Israel off the map would finish things and end the IDF’s war crimes. However, it would still be morally wrong.
This is a very poor comparison. I think you already know that though.
Well, my friend, I’m glad you’re not disputing the point, despite the poor comparison. I wish you peace and love :)
which is more than they hope for children in palestine