Well, the next time someone brings up a terrible anecdote about Cambodia or Vietnam, I will definitely drop the Star Wars story to show that people have two sides.

Yeah. And I get those who think you shouldn’t be friends with someone who did terrible things. I hear that. I can just say that he was, as a very large number of people would say, though many fewer would say it publicly, an extraordinarily generous friend.

Professor, thank you so much for doing this.

Great, thanks. If we go light on the Kissinger part, I wouldn’t complain, because it could dwarf everything else.