Trump warned he will impose additional tariffs on the European Union and Canada if they band together to “do economic harm” against the United States.
Get @#$%ed, Trump. Good read. Short but detailed about how partnered we are already and what our next priorities should be
You mean you are done with the US and you are not joining the EU and not all Canadians feel this way.
A national survey conducted by Abacus Data in late February 2025, involving 1,500 Canadian adults, revealed:
high level figures in the EU have repeatedly stated that while they appreciate the gesture, Canada wont ever be a member. So its best to abandon those pipe dreams. When it comes down to the details, the EU is a boys club for Western and Central Europe, they dont even treat their Eastern members as anything more than a buffer zone against the Russians,
the EU isnt flawless either, Russia has infiltrated it with trojan horse governments like the Hungarian Fidesz party and the Slovakian SMER party, who embezzle EU funds and politically roadblock motions with their veto. Canada trying to decouple with the US just to dive into the EU is like running from a burning house into a house with a basement meth lab.
Who? I haven’t heard anything so definitive.
Lol, no. The east gets tons and tons of subsidies. It’s the whole reason Orban still wants to be in the EU.
You’ll also notice new eastern countries are lining up to join while euroskepticism has made headway in your “boy’s club” countries.
Definitely true. The difference is that the US is terminal in a 1933 Germany way, while the EU seems like it might have a bright future.
(“We are honored with the results of such a poll. It shows the attractiveness of the European Union, and it shows the appreciation of a very large share of Canadian citizens for the EU and its values,” said Paula Pinho, spokesperson for European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, at the Commission’s Wednesday briefing, before adding that she “will not go into” a possible EU application from Ottawa.")
Polish farmers blocking NATO weapon shipments and railways to a critical combat theatre over a dispute with European markets and Ukrainian Grain, Hungarian vetos blocking EU financial packages to Ukraine, Ukraine has very much become a litmus test for countless issues worldwide, everything from testing the strength of alliances and unions, to testing the rationality and morality of individual people. and the EU has been taking one step forward one step back for much of it, It took them until the US basically took a turn into a terminal illness of fascism, for the major power players, namely France and Germany, to step forward and acknowledge that there can’t be anymoe of this sitting on hands they played for the last 3-5 years as our world swirls the toilet bowl
in short, Yes, those eastern countries get subsidies, but its increasingly being seen as a bribe from one side to the other to keep them on the blue team. while hostile actors like the states with the parties I mentioned, just pocket the money while playing interference for the Russian mob state.___
Thank you for context.
Veto should be a uncriticized power of EU membership. A not particularly creative agreement EU members can make is to fund and benefit from a program budget on which just the approving members decide upon. If you wanted a $100B bill to gift stuff to Ukraine, and Hungary’s share was going to be $1-$5B, then a $95B-$99B bill could be passed among other members.
Thanks. I’d say “will not go into” is decidedly neutral, though. Which isn’t surprising, there’s no point starting a big controversy when nothing is actually on the table yet.
I dont think anyone from the EU is going to take concrete steps to a Canadian application, because they havent concretely ruled out that America wont physically invade it. Its an insane prospect, but this world is already insane.
Europe is already dealing with a hostile Russia, They can probably handle Russia alone, They can’t handle Russia + America, so unless we’re all ready to write it off and Blast each other with nuclear weapons, I think Europe has quietley agreed that if America does turn psycho, and the cost of keeping America Neutral, and not allied with Russia, is sacrificing Canada, they will Sacrifice Canada in a heartbeat. Officially, at least
Unofficially it will just be a fucking shadow war.
The thing is, it’s not actually that insane if you zoom out enough. We just convinced ourselves history was over, or at least over here.
Unless you know something I don’t I suspect they’d still be open to a defence pact right now, especially with the American threats to Greenland as well. If we were to wait until it’s imminent that would all change, and then it would be build nukes or bust.
You do know that “getting nukes” isnt a thing. right?
A country suddenly trying to develop a nuclear weapons program is something other nuclear powers will absolutely attack one over.
look at how many times Israel and the USA have nonchalantly bombed Iran,
the USA will never, ever tolerate a country in the Americas getting a Nuclear weapon, they’ll Invade them like Panama or Grenada in a heartbeat.
Hosting Nuclear weapons of another country is about the farthest you’ll get with that plan
We already have hundreds of tons of plutonium sitting in our spent CANDU fuel. We have plenty of expertise on what to do with it. They say it would take a couple months for us to put an arsenal together; delivery would actually be the harder part.
You’re forgetting North Korea did it slowly and painfully without provoking an invasion. The main reason not to do this is that proliferation is bad, and that we don’t want to be North Korea. Hosting or just generally having an agreement with a nuclear power would be much preferable.
Unfair considering CIA infiltration of rest of EU. Not gaslighting their people with Russophobia warmongering is a sane position that has created FDI and growth exceeding rest of EU, as in rest of free (non US colonized) world.
At any rate, trade deals with EU is awesome to pursue. A political union with extreme hate groups who beg for greater US subservience to increase their hate is very dangerous for Canada to submit to. CIA control over all western democracies makes gaslighting on US resistance easy, and push comes to shove, EU would happily help destroy Canada if it gives them more US brownie points. EU faked interest in a trade deal with Ukraine in 2013, only to have US controlled (with EU puppet votes) IMF sabotage it, and assist in coup against Ukrainian president who trusted EU.
EU is simply not reliable, even if Canadians programming aligns with their current chaos. Canada wanting it more than EU is a recipe for failure.