Do a guard dog equals a fighting dog? Protective equals aggressive? Gtfo with that weak bullshit 🙄
A pit bull will guard you with its life. Not only will it, it can.
If trained to do so. Because of bad owners.
For someone talking a lot about working dogs, you seem utterly clueless about how they BECOME working dogs.
Dogs aren’t machines with certain behaviors hard coded. Some might have generational trauma and/or PTSD from previous owners, but properly trained and socialized dogs EXTREMELY rarely exhibits aggressive behavior and when they do, it’s not caused by being a specific breed.
If you have to train a dog to do something or else it will “naturally” or “inherently” do something different. Then it is naturally or inherently trained to do that thing
That’s a Ben Shapiro sized “let’s say that” 🙄
You don’t have to train a guard breed to not guard any more than you have to train a seventh generation farmer not to farm or he’ll just spontaneously start growing crops.
Do a guard dog equals a fighting dog? Protective equals aggressive? Gtfo with that weak bullshit 🙄
A guard dog DOES not EQUAL a fighting dog. No. But a fighting dog does equal a guard dog.
Gtfo with that weak bullshit 🙄
Good argument point
For someone talking a lot about working dogs, you seem utterly clueless about how they BECOME working dogs.
Do you even know how they BECOME working dogs?
A Shetland Sheepdog doesn’t need to go to doggie college to learn to herd sheep. It is in their nature to chase and get everything together. You put my sheltie in a field of sheep, and he’ll make sure no sheep wanders off.
There is very little training you have to do to get a beagle to hunt rabbits.
Try training a St. Bernard to hunt rabbits…
Dogs aren’t machines with certain behaviors hard coded
Since you said it, it must be true
Some might have generational trauma
So you are saying that past generational experiences can shape a breed? That’s the opposite of what you are trying to argue.
Many studies have been done about aggression in breeding.
One would be The Russian Silver Fox Experiment.
They took wild foxes and tried to domestic them through selective breeding, and they took aggressive foxes and tried to make more aggressive ones.
Turns out that they could do both, make them less aggressive and more aggressive through breeding.
It has been studied a ton in mice and it has been found that aggression is heritable that follows the Mendelian inheritance patterns with genes located on autosomes. That expression of aggressive behavior is influenced by androgens.
So yes, in a way, we, like dogs, are all “machines” with certain “codes”
You don’t have to train a guard breed to not guard any more than you have to train a seventh generation farmer not to farm or he’ll just spontaneously start growing crops.
Oh geez
I’ll ask you this question.
Set up: Pit Bull and Shetland Sheepdog. Both in separate large pits. Gold bars in middle. Food and water is given to both, but no human contact ever.
Which pit would you want to retrieve the gold bar from?
In your mind, it shouldn’t make a difference which pit
Do a guard dog equals a fighting dog? Protective equals aggressive? Gtfo with that weak bullshit 🙄
If trained to do so. Because of bad owners.
For someone talking a lot about working dogs, you seem utterly clueless about how they BECOME working dogs.
Dogs aren’t machines with certain behaviors hard coded. Some might have generational trauma and/or PTSD from previous owners, but properly trained and socialized dogs EXTREMELY rarely exhibits aggressive behavior and when they do, it’s not caused by being a specific breed.
That’s a Ben Shapiro sized “let’s say that” 🙄
You don’t have to train a guard breed to not guard any more than you have to train a seventh generation farmer not to farm or he’ll just spontaneously start growing crops.
A guard dog DOES not EQUAL a fighting dog. No. But a fighting dog does equal a guard dog.
Good argument point
Do you even know how they BECOME working dogs?
A Shetland Sheepdog doesn’t need to go to doggie college to learn to herd sheep. It is in their nature to chase and get everything together. You put my sheltie in a field of sheep, and he’ll make sure no sheep wanders off.
There is very little training you have to do to get a beagle to hunt rabbits.
Try training a St. Bernard to hunt rabbits…
Since you said it, it must be true
So you are saying that past generational experiences can shape a breed? That’s the opposite of what you are trying to argue.
Many studies have been done about aggression in breeding.
One would be The Russian Silver Fox Experiment.
They took wild foxes and tried to domestic them through selective breeding, and they took aggressive foxes and tried to make more aggressive ones.
Turns out that they could do both, make them less aggressive and more aggressive through breeding.
It has been studied a ton in mice and it has been found that aggression is heritable that follows the Mendelian inheritance patterns with genes located on autosomes. That expression of aggressive behavior is influenced by androgens.
So yes, in a way, we, like dogs, are all “machines” with certain “codes”
Oh geez
I’ll ask you this question.
Set up: Pit Bull and Shetland Sheepdog. Both in separate large pits. Gold bars in middle. Food and water is given to both, but no human contact ever.
Which pit would you want to retrieve the gold bar from?
In your mind, it shouldn’t make a difference which pit