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      I used to roll my eyes at all the “sheeple” comments, but to be honest, looking at what’s happening in the US recently and seeing how many people just capitulate to the bullies I’m not so sure anymore… It’s just really sad and depressing :(

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        You forget that like 40% of people in the US are fine with this. It’s more depressing when you realize the reason people aren’t fighting back is because they’re fine with it.

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          I wouldn’t say 40% are “fine with this”. Its more like 40% of Americans are some combination of: Uneducated by design, Brainwashed by decades of propaganda, Kept so far in poverty they can’t focus on anything but their next paycheck, indoctrinated into toxic religious communities, etc. The current state of the US, has been carefully molded and shaped into what it is now by the fascists in power.

          As for people not fighting back? Some are. Not enough of course, but that goes back to keeping people in poverty. It would take me, for example, 7 hours of driving just to get to my state capitol to protest. Not to mention a couple hundred $ in gas. People working two jobs and living paycheck to paycheck just can’t do that realistically.

          I hate that my country has turned into this fascist shithole and wish that more people would rally and fight. I hate that I’m sitting here making excuses for these people but I’m really trying not to lose my humanity in all this. The sad truth of the matter, though, is that people won’t fight unless their life is disrupted so much that it snaps them out of their survival mentality. Bread and Circuses and all that.

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        What the hell are we supposed to do? It’s a BIG goddamn country, and most of us are barely making it from week to week. None of us want to lose our housing, our jobs, or our lives, on the chance that we might remove 47 from power. And if we manage to do so, who the hell is gonna take his place? JD Vance? Some other fascist? Who’s honestly going to step up and lead this country into prosperity again?

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          Fuck OFF. You know exactly what to do- it’s what your countrymen did, more than once, when they accomplished the things all of you have spent a couple centuries loudly taking credit for.

          Do you think there weren’t colonists who were worried that rebellion would cost them their livelihoods? Do you think your grandparents fought the Nazis risk-free? You aren’t special. Your shitty job that you hate isn’t special. Everyone who ever stood up for anything consequential had plenty to lose.

          For as long as I live, I never want to hear another American crowing about their oh-so-grand revolutionary spirit. But, sure, whatever- wait until your country decides to invade us and hope that we’ll take action where you spent three decades watching with your thumbs up your asses and failing to do anything while the rest of us accurately explained to you precisely what was going to happen.

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          That is a great example of propaganda.

          It reads like a normal comment, but it’s literally intended to suppress any attempts at resistance by pretending there’s nothing that can be done.

          And the scary part is that the person who posted it might have fallen for it themselves and believed it when they posted.

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          None of us want to lose our housing, our jobs, or our lives,

          Then you can go on doing nothing until you’re conscripted to invade Canada.

          And if we manage to do so, who the hell is gonna take his place? JD Vance? Some other fascist?

          You’re looking down a revolution here; why is your first reflex to name JD Vance? Put whoever you goddamn like in charge that’s the whole point.

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          Your position is absolutely understandable. What you and your fellow citizens can do are

          • attending protests
          • battling the administration if you are the administrator of some company/agency/museum that the government wants to dismantle
          • making your voice be heard on social media as well

          The government wants you as apathetic as possible. Don’t let them be right

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          This attitude is understandable but it is exactly the attitude that enables faschism. Germany in the 1930s is calling. The existential crisis, the fatalism, The call for a leader to make everything better. The time for change without risks is gone. Stakes gonna get much higher wirh time if the opposition does not move fast. Everybody has to get involved.

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          You’re supposed to fight the small battles that come your way. You’re supposed to refuse to do the bad thing.

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      Worse. If I destroy (or remove and hide away) a book, it still exists, as long as there’s at least another copy, the manuscript, an editor’s digital backup, etc. You cannot copy art. It’s never the same exact piece the artist sculpted with their fingers.

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    We’re at the point where its not going to be safe and cuddly. Say no, make the administration attack you. Its bigger than ourselves time bois.

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    The utter destruction of the republic continues apace. Russia’s published plan was always to do this US in by inflaming racial tensions. I’d imagine this is just the next step in the playbook.

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        I shouldve helped in the genocide? So we lost by one vote? Darn I guess this is on me then, although to be fair my state went for harris and we dont use the general vote count for anything, but thats not the point for you is it. Because you arent here with any realistic points.

        Funny story, my state was called for Harris before even one vote was reported.

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    I’m just here to point out that the image looks like a sand crawler. Utinni!

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        Maybe leave the room while the adults are talking

        I see how you go around on Lemmy saying Twitter-length insult comments on political discussions. An agent of mockery for Putin lovers.

        Russia-watcher Catherine Fitzpatrick, who documents Kremlin disinformation for InterpreterMag .com, says just as Moscow uses vague Internet laws to encourage self-censorship, trolls inhibit informed debate by using crude dialogue to change “the climate of discussion.” “If you show up at The Washington Post or New Republic sites, where there’s an article that’s critical of Russia, and you see that there are 200 comments that sound like they were written by 12-year-olds, then you just don’t bother to comment,” she says. “You don’t participate. It’s a way of just driving discussion away completely,” she adds. “Those kinds of tactics are meant to stop democratic debate, and they work.”

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          It was more of a subtle call for violence than anything. Giving money to any group is absolutely pointless because when was the last time you recall a group, who asked for money, ever accomplishing their goal?

          Everyone is just profiting on pain as the ship sinks.

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    Anyone wanna take bets on whether the artifacts and exhibts are being properly taken off display and stored, or if they are just being tossed in a dumpster somewhere…

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    America, you need to riot. Like yesterday. Do not let this happen. You’re too much of an imperial power, it’s gonna fuck us all over.

    Fight them in every arena. Stop rolling over.

    Too much to lose to fight back? Just wait, you’ll live to regret it. And so will we.

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      All of the museum people (curators, assistant curators, curatorial assistants, devo, registration, facilities generally make starvation wages. They tend to be deeply proud of their work and the contant of the museum and thats why they work there. So this nonsense has to be absolutely gutting everyone there, and probably across the Smithsonian museums in general. I feel really bad for them along with all the African Americans being attacked by this.

      This action takes all of their work through their career and kind of lights it all on fire, for no reason but that Trump is angry at the world because he has a tiny penis and knows that everyone he knows cant stand him.

      Stay strong, museum folks.

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        They tend to be deeply proud of their work

        Not anymore I guess

        Stay strong, museum folks.

        Stay?

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      A lot of us dont want any of this, but also arent either the autocrat in charge, the billionaires who bought him, nor are we the military that can stop him.

      As much as a lot of us would stop this immediately if we could, we also dont need to let Trump have his Tienammen Square moment. The military should have removed him the moment it was clear that he is hell bent on destabilizing our country, our region, and the world at large.

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      ~46% of Americans are republican and strongly support trump no matter what he does-- even now his support amongst republicans is extremely high around social and wedge issues.

      ~45% of Americans are democrats, and of those, ~55% are in support of progressive causes, while the remainder ~45% of dems are centrist or lean conservative-- mainly concerned with preserving their current rights and daily way of life. Although they are a minority of dems, the non-progressives control the party’s legal apparatus so the democrats are a house very dvided so are unlikely to be winning any elections anytime soon. The centrists have proven that they’d much rather lose than let the progressives take control of the party. The math shows us that just 24.75% of the country is progressive-- these are people who’d care to keep the black history museum open.

      The independents (not dem or republican) usually fall between republican and Dem centrist, so they likely don’t accrue to progressive numbers in this case.

      So probably just over 75% of Americans want this or dont care to fight this. You can only trust 1 in 4 Americans to be against this on principle. And those 1 in 4 dont have a political party that will loyally rally around their causes-- especially this far from an election.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/poll-sizeable-chunk-americans-think-neither-party-fights-people-rcna202884