https://lemmy.world/comment/15319695
I’m guessing they did this because my comment didn’t have the correct positive vibes for them on their post when they’re the moderator.
It’s funny because 196 and almost all of its derivatives are rightfully anti-tankie because tankies promote centrism and conservatism directly harmful to trans and gay rights.
YDI, a quick google search before commenting would’ve cleared this up.
You used a white supremacist dog whistle that’s been rampantly popular among the far-right for years. You say you didn’t know that, but with how often it’s used, I don’t think that’s a very believable excuse.
If this wasn’t a BPR by you, then at the very least YDI.
The meme used a white supremacist dog whistle and I interpreted the words as their literal meaning instead of their dog whistle meaning, but the fact remains that my comment was very clearly and very consistently anti-tankie which is absolutely a core belief of 196.
Yea, but the problem is that there is no different literal meaning from the dog whistle. What would ‘cultural Marxism’ even mean to a Marxist?
Nobody is questioning your anti-tankie bona-fides here. We’re pointing to the irony of someone trying hard to otherize tankies from other leftists accidentally appropriating a term that’s pretty much exclusively used to malign both for the acceptance of LGBTQ expression.
Belonging to a cultural group who believes in the political ideology of Marxism. What part of that sounds like something White Supremacists cooked up? You absolutely require context to understand this is a play on “Cultural Bolshevism” which was just code for Jews.
Yea, see, that’s the problem - both of those terms are intended to describe a ‘culture’ of acceptance/normalization of lgbtq and non-traditional expression and associate it with the revolutionary language of Marx - the implication being that Marxists are intentionally pushing those norms and values as a part of their revolutionary action.
All of which is relevant to the actual content of the original post - either you simply missed the whole point of the meme or you’ve accepted the premise of the term itself.
You interpreted the words as their literal meaning? And pray tell me, what is their literal meaning? The words don’t mean anything except as a dog whistle. Explain to me how you looked at those two words together, and thought, yeah, that’s a normal phrase that’s said.
culture /kŭl′chər/
noun
The arts, beliefs, customs, institutions, and other products of human work and thought considered as a unit, especially with regard to a particular time or social group.These arts, beliefs, and other products considered with respect to a particular subject or mode of expression.
The set of predominating attitudes and behavior that characterize a group or organization.
marxism
noun
The socialist philosophy and political program developed by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels. Any social or political philosophy or ideology derived from the thought of Karl Marx.Right, now stop being cute and tell me what those words mean in the context of each other. Define cultural Marxism. If they’re normal words, surely you know what they mean together.
Idk how you’re not understanding this. Did you think I was just being dramatic when I said literal and therefor meant metaphorical?
I’m not certain this is what happened, but are you aware that “cultural Marxism” specifically is a right wing conspiracy and not synonymous with being a tankie. Because to me a “cultural Marxism” tag on a post like that is almost certainly ironic. I could see someone mistakenly thinking troll since your comment doesn’t make sense to someone familiar with the term.
Nah I didn’t know, I can never follow all these trends where words have different meanings than the actual meanings of the words.
It’s from r/196 on reddit. Short version is “cultural marxism” is the new term for “cultural bolshevism” (dogwhistle for jews in WWII era) and 196 stole it to use ironically for “this is what the left wants” style shitposts.
This is another problem with all these ironic postings. They end up being repeated by people who don’t understand them, and then we get into these situations. I really dislike when people use fashy dogwhistles like “degenerate” and “cultural marxism” ironically.
Hi, I’m the original mod who banned you for that, your original comment seemed to come across as trolling because as other commenters have pointed out “cultural Marxism” specifically is a right-wing conspiracy theory, and also the immediate implication that me or the OP are tankies from what is ultimately a silly meme in a shitposting community felt uncharitable. Since it seems like I made a mistake and you didn’t mean any harm I’ll go ahead and unban you from the community.
Edit: Upon more consideration, I have decided to reverse this descision, this is both because of evidence sent in by another user, as well as me being prompted to check their modlog, and yeah… it is awful… PSA to all mods out there, check a person’s modlog before granting appeals, everyone has modlog history, but you can tell a lot about them as a person including their intents from that history. Especially from the contents of removed comments.
Nah I think I’ll block you dudes, thanks tho.
You should edit the post to put [resolved] in the title, since your issue has been officially resolved at this point.
But that would interfere with their terrible attempts to troll
Yeah looking at their post and modlog history I’m thinking it was a mistake on my part to grant them an unban. Acted way too quickly without considering their history. Which is pretty bad all things considered, I thought maybe I had made a mistake but it seems my only mistake was not explaining their ban better in the first place.
