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The Trump Store released $50 “Trump 2028” hats Thursday, sparking backlash online as Trump has repeatedly hinted at running for a third term.

“I have had more people ask me to have a third term,” Trump said on March 31, claiming the 2020 election was “totally rigged.”

Steve Bannon said he’s exploring “five or six different alternatives” to enable a third run.

Critics on social media called it “insane” and a sign of “fascist” ambitions. Though barred by the 22nd Amendment, Trump could run again if it were overturned by Congress and the states. However, it would require a two-thirds vote of Congress and three-fourths vote of the states.

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    3 天前

    I’m against violence, but I’m not sure urinating and/or defecating on anyone wearing this hat counts as violence

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    How is it fucking soft launching fascism? The US is already at the concentration camp step, it is already fully blown fascism.

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    Third term has nothing to do with being a grift for money or whatever. He’s using that as a tool for power

    It’s simple. He’s going to jail when he’s done being president. And he’s pissed off so many people he’s definitely getting shanked

    He cannot pardon himself for state crimes

    The entire point of running a 3rd term is to stay out of jail

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        He got convicted. Just not given a prison sentence

        And he can’t pardon State crimes. Tax fraud is serious. And there is no where to escalate this to. He has no control over the courts in ny

        He only wasn’t sent to jaildue to the possibility it would be considered election interference.

        And, I’m not sure he can’t even appeal it

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        Why do you think he ran for presidency again… He was convicted. Legally, he can’t argue he’s running for a 3rd term, so the judge can’t make the same. The only thing the judge did was say he’d postpone sentencing…

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          I would love to live in this fairytale land where Trump actually faces consequences, but unfortunately that will never happen and people need to face reality and focus on minimizing damage.

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      He is going to ride the courts until he dies or too old to care. They had 4 years to lock him up for his previous crimes including Jan 6th. He won’t see jail time and he knows it

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          To put on my own conspiracy hat for a moment, he’s getting set up to be the fall guy. He’s following a playbook he didn’t write, the people that did write Project 2025 know how unpopular it will be, and the final play is setting trump up as the tyrant to be deposed by a real dictator. Sure hope I’m wrong.

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            My worst nightmare is him getting killed right before the next election cycle ramps up and the fascists running a campaign “in memory of Trump”.
            Maybe they’ll have kicked off the war with Iran by then too, so they can say “This is no time for a change in leadership”.

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    In case anyone is still unsure, he is not willingly leaving in 2028. Everything that’s happening indicates he is setting up a path for him to remain. One of two things are going to happen in our future.

    1. We will need to march on DC in INSANE numbers and force him to leave with the threat of lethal force.

    2. We will have to use lethal force to make him leave.

    Only other possibility is he dies of natural causes before then. But then we get Vance and we’ll probably have to do the same thing. This isn’t just Trump. The entire GOP apparatus is a fascist movement. The only reason he didn’t do it last time is because he hadn’t set up the foundation for him to remain by doing things like, I don’t know, instructing the FBI to arrest federal judges who oppose him, which is a line we just crossed today.

    Fascism is here. Arm yourselves. Help others arm themselves. Train. Help others train.

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      But then we get Vance

      If Trump dies in 2026 then there are 10 constitutionally valid years of Vance ruling.

      Do you think the Constitution will stay unaltered until 2036?

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      Because of this comment, I think I’m going to start saving a little money for a quick trip to DC. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I think I want to be there when it does.

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      So it’s gonna be January 6th all over again?

      I’m not trying to be a pessimist, but this is the same kind of logic J6ers used in 2021. They believed that the election was stolen and tried to invade the capitol as a result.

      I’d like to be proven wrong here, but if a massive crowd of armed people show up to the capitol doors if trump is somehow reelected in 2028, you’d be hard pressed to convince most normal people that it’s any different than J6.

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        I’m not trying to be a pessimist, but this is the same kind of logic J6ers used in 2021. They believed that the election was stolen and tried to invade the capitol as a result.

        And if they had been right, it would have been justified. The problem is that they had zero evidence of a stolen election. Trump went to court over 60 times to get the election overturned, and never once produced a shred of evidence that the election was stolen from him, even when it was in front of judges he personally appointed. The January 6th rioters were basing their actions on nothing more than right-wing propaganda.

        In contrast, Trump is openly signaling that he is going to ignore the Constitution (or unilaterally alter it) and run for a third term. A January 6th style riot would be justified in this case (if all legal routes fail), because if he is allowed to get away with this, what’s stopping him from just handing his fourth presidency to Donald Jr, then Barron, and so on?

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        What showed up on Jan 6 were a few thousand redneck losers, many of whom already had criminal convictions. What I’m talking about is something that will need to be larger than the Civil Rights march on DC in '63. Larger than the 2020 protests. What showed up on Jan 6 were dipshits who believed an election was stolen without a shred of evidence. If this fuck tries remaining after 2 terms there’s no guesswork involved. No BELIEF that something is wrong. You’re going to see something unlike anything this country has seen before that unites all liberals, all independents, a lot of people who never identified as anything before, and probably even a lot of conservatives who still have some sort of red line.

        A president only getting 2 terms is one of those basic, foundational rules that is easy to understand. There’s lots of grey area in what Trump and his fascist enablers are doing, especially to stupid people. But even stupid people get the 2 term rule and can grasp why it matters.

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    I’m not going to lie, this is a profitable move by Trump, because his voters will line up to get them to antagonize those outside their in group, as was the entire point of their vote, to harm their enemies as an end in itself, regardless of whether he’s able to get the SCOTUS to rule that up means down and no third term means infinite terms for Republicans only.

    I’m just looking forward to all the idiots giggling about their own enslavement, as I see anyone wearing that hat as a derivation of this:

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      I was thinking of making a sign to be carried at a protest. One side would say “Honk if you support Trump.” The other side would say something like, “Only the assholes are honking.”

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    It still isn’t currently legal for him to run for a third term. This is how confident he is the law will be changed or ignored.

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      The strategy they’ve been floating for years is: have two other candidates run while he runs for the house. Trump gets chosen as house speaker, meanwhile the President and VP resign, making Trump president. Then they argue this is technically constitutional since he didn’t win an election to become president.

      That’s why it’s essential that after 2026, there is a push to eliminate this loophole. It may take a constitutional change, but first it’s going to take absolute annihilation of Republicans in the midterms.

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      It still isn’t currently legal for him to run for a third term.

      Being a convicted felon made it illegal for him to run for a second term. Still didn’t stop him.

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      This is why they are so actively defying the courts and ignoring their rulings, especially the Supreme Court, and he’ll be doing it as often as possible between now and Election Day 2025. That way, when he defies them to serve a 3rd term, it will just be the latest in a long series of violations, and people will be too fatigued to fight about it.

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            Unfortunately, the tyrants have people with far more guns and resources at their disposal. “The blood of patriots and tyrants,” indeed.

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              What we have are competent leaders. All those strong military leaders that spent their lives rising through the ranks to the highest levels, have been replaced by incompetent loyalist idiots, and now they are on our side. When it kicks off, at least half of the military rank & file will side with the competent leaders they respect, and as the MAGA military flounders, more and more will defect.

              In addition, most people visualize a Civil War in which we are on our own, but that won’t happen. HitlerPig has very few allies in the world, and they are generally as incompetent as he is. Right off the bat, Canada and Mexico will side with the American Patriots against the MAGA Nazis, and so will Europe, once they band together to defeat Russia.

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                I’m referring to “law” enforcement and the military. The MAGAts are a negligible threat.

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              They have the resources to stop many thousands of people. They do not have the force to stop millions.

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          My mom used to always speed like crazy, and when people would complain, pointing to the speed limit signs, she’d always respond with something along the lines of “signs can’t limit speed, let me know if you see a cop instead.” Some people just don’t give a shit about the forms of soft power meant to keep people in line without taking real action against them. My mom was one, and our current president is another. The funny thing is that we’re going to have to ignore them as well to stop him.

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            The problem is, the law DOES matter for us dregs. It only doesn’t apply for the wealthy.

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      This is one law he can’t ignore. If the ammendment doesn’t pass the house and senate with a two thirds vote and the idiot gets sworn in for a third term, it becomes legal hunting season. He would instantly become a domestic threat to the Constitution and any US citizen could legally attack him or anyone giving him aid. The US citizens would all basically become bounty hunters, and anyone that fought back to defend the illegal third term asshole would be considered a domestic threat as well.

      Pray this man is really this stupid. I kind of want to see that drama unfold.

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        If the ammendment doesn’t pass the house and senate with a two thirds vote and the idiot gets sworn in for a third term, it becomes legal hunting season.

        How long ago would someone have said that about “if the president ignores a ruling of the Supreme Court in order to deport American citizens without due process”?
        Or “If people in plain clothes claim to be Federal agents and grab people off the street without badges or warrants”?

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          Our whole government has decided Trump can do these things. Republicans follow him like a cult leader, but democrats stand by and open doors for him.

          If ICE comes to someone’s property they can be sent packing (and have been). If ICE stops the wrong person on the street they are likely to get messed up … they are just customs agents. The only reason they are getting to run wild like this is because they are catching slightly ignorant people off guard (not trying to be insulting, just meaning that they don’t know their rights).

          There is no fix for the Supreme Court … most of them are corrupt and need to be impeached, but they is no legal path to do it.

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            Our whole government has decided Trump can do these things. Republicans follow him like a cult leader, but democrats stand by and open doors for him.

            And if the same thing happens when Trump runs again in 2028 what will be the difference?

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              Trump is not eligible to run for president again. It would take a two thirds vote from both the house and senate … it will not happen.

              If he declares himself president after this second term it would be done illegally, and any US citizen could then attack him legally as a domestic threat to the Constitution. Trump is stupid, but he is not that stupid.

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    He got into power rigging the election with Elon, Russia, and ballotproof. He will magically get enough seats in the midterm to overturn the 22nd and be king til he dies if successful.

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      Republicans would have to win two thirds of state legislatures with MAGA loyalists to even bring a vote to overturn the 22nd. There is no way that happens legally, and Republicans know it. If they plan on a third Trump term, my bet is they will either be ignoring the 22nd altogether, or enacting emergency powers to suspend the entire Constitution indefinitely.

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    You have to soft launch your fascist dictatorship. People need time to accept the possibility.

    It took a lifetime to turn the Roman Republic into the Principate. You gotta ease into these things to keep peope from shanking you on the senate floor.

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    If no-one stops him, then the US only has itself to blame.

    The tangerine pufferfish has an incredible ability to say a thing enough that it becomes true enough to happen.

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    I don’t get the “rigged 2020 election” argument.

    Did he forgot about his first mandate? If he won in 2020/21 it would still make 2 mandates and he theoretically would not been able to go for 2024/25.

    OFC it is just a shit excuse to please his crowd, but math are math, one + one still equals two, 2020 election or not.

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    I wish soft launching a dictatorship was insane. He has soft launched all the atrocities before this. Always starts as a joke or suggestion… Until it’s not. Now here we are. This soft launch will takes all the outrage of this move and diffuse it through time and the fire hose of all the other terrible things to happen before the the next presidental election… Assuming we will have one at all.

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    Could be a major grift, could be a very serious motion to run again, we don’t know what’s real because he’ll try anything and knows his shit licking supporters will be right behind him to thank him. I’m skeptical but I’m ready to face the worst.

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      Legally the only way he could run again would be to modify the Constitution which is simply impossible since the Democrats will never agree to it.

      Which means he’ll have to do it the Trump way by forcing things. => 2028 comes up, he announces he’s going to run again and his fanbase will support him.

      =>The Republican leadership will then have to choose between supporting him again or not supporting him and splinter the party. They will probably choose to support him which will trigger probably the biggest constitutional crisis since the Civil War.

      =>Democrat states and maybe a few Republican will refuse to put him on their ballots and the Supreme Courts has to get involved. A Supreme Court that is dominated by 6 Republican appointed judges at the moment (3 of whom were appointed by Trump). If more Democrat appointed judges die during his current term, then there’s a fair chance he’ll have complete control over it by the 2028 election. They might actually reinterpret the Constitution to let him run.

      I’m honestly very concerned for the US. Maybe he chokes on a chicken wing and we can avoid this whole mess.

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        We’ve just recently seen there are only two justices willing to follow Trump off the cliff when push comes to shove.