• kemsat@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I think it’s dumb that we’ve got plans to phase out personal gasoline vehicles, but we don’t have plans to electrify the industrial sector or the transportation industries.

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    2 months ago

    At least for Germany that’s not the whole picture.

    They banned the sale of cars that have a combustion engine running on fossil fuel starting from 2035. Semis running on Diesel are fine*. Special equipment for agriculture (harvesters, …) can still run on anything*. If your engine runs on alcohol it’s fine too**.

    * might change in the future.
    ** Just give me a sip from your fuel tank.

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      2 months ago

      You’ll need time to upgrade the infrastructure and for car makers to switch their products. That usually takes a decade.

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        2 months ago

        Faster if they’re forced.

        I’d push for now new models made with gas engines, force them to sell remaining stock and pivot their current designs to utilize electric motors.

        The real issue would be the infrastructure / utilities upgrading, but also … if they were forced instead of given special privilege.

        🤷

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          2 months ago

          This won’t work. A new car easily takes 5 years to develop. A new charging pole might only take 2-3 years to build (don’t forget all the necessary tape) but large scale electric infrastructure can’t be upgraded that fast. You might need another power plant, new power poles all over the country, new substations*, … Then there are the legal challenges and the NIMBY crowds. The to-do-list is long and some entries are mindbogglingly expensive, complicated or both.

          • The big transformer stations are incredibly expensive and sometimes take a whole year to build. You can’t crank them out by the thousands.

          Don’t get me wrong I want to switch to all electric transportation as early as possible too. But you have to accept that some steps just take time.