The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.
A survey taken by Harvard’s Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), “who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and ‘fight harder’,” rather than leaders who are willing to “compromise” with President Donald Trump.
I don’t know how anyone can honestly believe democrats are pro-democracy when they literally locked the people out of the primaries.
It’s clear as day that they sabotoged the whole process.
It’s either ignorance or willful blindness.
Don’t ever expect change when you keep voting for the people who deny it to you.
You’re clinging to semantics here, which is very frustrating — and honestly not helpful at all except for edgy leftists who can’t stand engaging pragmatically with electoralism because it makes them feel dirty.
When I say pro-democracy, I mean they’re not explicitly anti-democracy, that is not explicitly pro-dismantling-democracy-forever-with-high-priority the way the other guys demonstrably are. So yes, given the context, we’re grading on a curve here — obviously. That’s why we say they’re the lesser evil as opposed to “the good guys”. Jesus fuck, some people really want to be the smuggest person in the death camp. Right now Bernie’s your only shot, but I’m not your boss, keep shitting on him.
And who did they sabotage it against? Jesus Christ!
What’s your favorite flavor of paint chip? White or off-white?
Maybe you should go back to reddit and complain about voter shaming or something.
“When I say pro-democracy I mean they aren’t explicity anti-democracy like the other people - they are just quiet about it altogether and since they aren’t telling me that they hate me directly I can respect and vote for that again.”
Brainworms.
Respect? Who said I respect them? But letting nazis win to spite the libs is suicidal. Now not only do you get zero progressive policies through (which will kill people), you also need to spend all your energy fighting for your existing rights (which will kill people) and weathering the storm (which will kill people).
Also, remember my initial objection was to you lumping Bernie in with the corpo Dems, despite you yourself admitting that they rigged the primary (and if you won’t say against who, then I’ll say it: against Bernie).
PS: I’m done with this conversation.
They conspired against the voters. I don’t know to spell it out for you.
Let’s use your reasoning:
The democrats conspired against Bernie two times. Why did he not launch his own party immediately in 2016 after Hilary’s humiliating loss? If he had 2024 could have been very interesting.
Both times the Independent senator from Vermont turns around and tells you to vote for the corporate democrat.
Many, many people (myself included) gave time and money and energy to Bernie’s campaigns to break out from the two-party system. Both times he says, “Nah, actually I can’t do this, you are better off voting for the same corporate shit you all hate.”
Did anything get better either time?
Why the fuck would anyone support someone who double-crossed them twice?
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.