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I think of quake 4. I like quake 4. It was not directed towards the original quake audience, though, which is why it’s a bad quake game. It’s kinda the same story with Quake Wars: Enemy Territory.
I’d say it’s a very similar thing with Doom 3. Q4 and D3 are both cinematic, linear, horror shooters, and they’re awesome in that regard. They fail at being movement shooters for the most part.
Raven really did right by the Strogg! Q4 finally made me appreciate the species and their lore (or hints of lore, rather). The characters are also unexpectededly fleshed out for what’s essentially still a shoot-em-up.
And that one scene was a brilliant subversion! Very well integrated into the narrative, too!