• barsoap@lemm.ee
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    4 days ago

    “fear of decline”

    You’re not making an argument, there. You’re showing a graph that’s misleading because it starts at fucking 10000 BCE. Look at a graph of Japan if you want to talk about Japan, and of the current generations not prehistory.

    it’s about the productive output, and as we all know, that has risen tremendously the last few years.

    Ah, yes, because having a machine that can churn out pottery like noone’s business helps a lot with elderly and palliative care.

    There is absolutely a limit how few kids a society can have before it collapses. Where that is is currently not particularly clear because the situation is unprecedented, but that there is a limit is crystal clear. 10 young people caring for 100 bed-ridden elderly and one kid, how long is that going to last, even if you automate everything else?

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      4 days ago

      His graph is still valid, as the exponential growth doesn’t really matter if we start from 0 BCE or 10000 BCE.

      Here’s

      Even if we would loose 60% of the population now, we would still be 1.5 times the population of 1900 (9miljard x 0.4=3.6 >2)