• markovs_gun@lemmy.world
        2·
        5 days ago

        You seriously misread that if you think it’s about Christmas trees in anything but maybe an abstract way. It’s about wooden idols. Who tf is chiseling their Christmas trees into shapes? I thought maybe this would be about Asherah poles or something at least kind of similar but this is a pretty obvious passage about idolatry.

      • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
        05·
        5 days ago

        Dunno how the date Christmas is celebrated is relevant, or the character surrounding St Nicholas

          • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
            1·
            5 days ago

            Not related to the Christian holiday of Christmas, they’re secular

            • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              5 days ago

              At least you’re better than most Jesus freaks who try to square the circle and say holly stands for Jesus or something.

              So when should they have the secular Christmas special which is the holiday most people celebrate?

                • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  5·
                  5 days ago

                  Ah yes, the “no fun allowed” stance that is so successful

                  Also, isn’t Easter more important? Everybody is born but only one primate came back to life, which is the important part.

                  • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
                    31·
                    5 days ago

                    Theologians have debated that one. I recently attended a service where the minister argued for Good Friday being more important.

                    Christmas is the Incarnation - so it’s like arguing over the most important part of a purchase.

                    Christmas - money put on the table Good Friday - money taken Easter - Receipt printed

                • Narauko@lemmy.world
                  2·
                  5 days ago

                  What is the point of of wanting to prevent those who do not share your religion from celebrating their holidays? There is a national secular holiday called Christmas and a religious holiday called Christmas, how does the existence of one cause problems for the other? Are other secular holidays like the 4th of July or Veterans Day also a problem? Is this something similar to Christians having a problem with the secular legal contract called marriage being allowed alongside the religious ceremony and oath called marriage?

          • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
            2·
            5 days ago

            The winter solstice is on the 21st of December, not the 25th. The dating of Christmas has nothing to do with it.

            Christmas is the date it is because it is 9 months (human gestation period) after the Feast of the Annunciation (25th of March) which gets it’s date from an old attributed date of Jesus’ death.

            In fact, the reason the UK tax date is in March is for the same reason - the new year was the Annunciation. Then 12 days difference due to the Julian/Gregorian shift.

            Edit:

            Also, the link you provided debunks your own claim-

            The popular theory that Christians chose Dec. 25 to co-opt the pagan solstice festival of Sol Invictus is not based on strong evidence but on the margin scribblings of an unnamed Syrian monk in the 12th century.

            And once again echoes what I said