“We had a good harvest this year. Way too much for us to use. I wonder if our neighbors would be willing to part with some of their excess pelts if we gave them…”
NEW ACHIEVEMENT
Commerce
You have something I want, and I have something you want. A fairly simple exchange can’t possibly get out of hand, right? RIGHT?!
Reward
Capitalism will ensure you never live a peaceful life. Not that you had a peaceful life before. Let’s just say your descendants will be forced into labor if they simply want to have shelter.
Capitalism will ensure you never live a peaceful life.
Isn’t a big allure of capitalism the kind-of comfort trap of desiring modern amenities enough to voluntarily engage with the industrial system?
Also, any proper Marxist is going to tell you that capitalism is a fundamental stepping stone to post-scarcity utopian communism. Capitalist mode of production generates the surpluses necessary for the kind of leisure enjoyed by a professional managerial class that ultimately forms a socialist bureaucracy. You don’t get your libraries and your hospitals and your trains without a pivot to capitalism.
Also, anyone who has done the proper deep wilderness style campaign can tell you that its anything but peaceful. You’re exposed to the elemental whims, your livelihood is predicated on ecological changes beyond your comprehension much less control, and you lack some really fundamental human achievements like modern language, art, and music. Hell, you might not even enjoy the benefit of simple machines like the screw or the wheel.
And that’s not even the really attractive achievements. Ask anyone with advanced tetanus or glaucoma how many years of restaurant work they’d be willing to endure for medical relief.
I mean, find a nice piece of land, build your shelter, no one bothers you about property tax or reports you to the HOA. Maybe a land ownership dispute, but even if you lose, as long as you live past that, you can setup somewhere else.
Well you’re forgetting being born, having to endure growing up if you got lucky, hoping you maybe got sold to a higher family. At that point you might as well just stay in your luxury of kings for the common folk.
Where are you going to gather the lumber from? Are you going to build the tools too? Smelt your iron? Pan for it first? Whered you get a pan?
Notice how you said ‘as long as you can live’ when that’s not a huge concern right now. Spoiled is spoiled, but dense is something else.
Capitalism doesn’t free us from any of that, community does. It’s standing on the shoulders of giants and advancing our understanding of the world that saves infants and puts food on tables. Not people who own the tools skimming off the top from the people that do the work
Money is the only fair way to compensate your time. That is the metric that is used because if actual work gets compensated it skews riches to able bodied, young, etc.
The systems in place are bad, but complete abandon is too. That is why talking of reform in the public forum is pertinent. Destruction without creation is just wicked.
If you talk about giants, what did the bible add in value to humans? Im curious as to your insight, genuinely.
“We had a good harvest this year. Way too much for us to use. I wonder if our neighbors would be willing to part with some of their excess pelts if we gave them…”
NEW ACHIEVEMENT
Commerce
You have something I want, and I have something you want. A fairly simple exchange can’t possibly get out of hand, right? RIGHT?!
Reward
Capitalism will ensure you never live a peaceful life. Not that you had a peaceful life before. Let’s just say your descendants will be forced into labor if they simply want to have shelter.
Isn’t a big allure of capitalism the kind-of comfort trap of desiring modern amenities enough to voluntarily engage with the industrial system?
Also, any proper Marxist is going to tell you that capitalism is a fundamental stepping stone to post-scarcity utopian communism. Capitalist mode of production generates the surpluses necessary for the kind of leisure enjoyed by a professional managerial class that ultimately forms a socialist bureaucracy. You don’t get your libraries and your hospitals and your trains without a pivot to capitalism.
Also, anyone who has done the proper deep wilderness style campaign can tell you that its anything but peaceful. You’re exposed to the elemental whims, your livelihood is predicated on ecological changes beyond your comprehension much less control, and you lack some really fundamental human achievements like modern language, art, and music. Hell, you might not even enjoy the benefit of simple machines like the screw or the wheel.
And that’s not even the really attractive achievements. Ask anyone with advanced tetanus or glaucoma how many years of restaurant work they’d be willing to endure for medical relief.
Unlike in the good old days where shelter was labor free.
I mean, find a nice piece of land, build your shelter, no one bothers you about property tax or reports you to the HOA. Maybe a land ownership dispute, but even if you lose, as long as you live past that, you can setup somewhere else.
Well you’re forgetting being born, having to endure growing up if you got lucky, hoping you maybe got sold to a higher family. At that point you might as well just stay in your luxury of kings for the common folk.
Where are you going to gather the lumber from? Are you going to build the tools too? Smelt your iron? Pan for it first? Whered you get a pan?
Notice how you said ‘as long as you can live’ when that’s not a huge concern right now. Spoiled is spoiled, but dense is something else.
Capitalism doesn’t free us from any of that, community does. It’s standing on the shoulders of giants and advancing our understanding of the world that saves infants and puts food on tables. Not people who own the tools skimming off the top from the people that do the work
Capitalism =/= Money
Money is the only fair way to compensate your time. That is the metric that is used because if actual work gets compensated it skews riches to able bodied, young, etc.
The systems in place are bad, but complete abandon is too. That is why talking of reform in the public forum is pertinent. Destruction without creation is just wicked.
If you talk about giants, what did the bible add in value to humans? Im curious as to your insight, genuinely.
The not getting mauled by wildlife and having medical professionals able to come to my house if I break my leg is kinda nice tho.