I actually just want to correct you on one thing and I am also Not sure what you really meant.
But we dont get 100% of our cells from our mothers. We get the mitochondria from our mothers. The cells that enclose those mitochondria are perfectly 50/50 after fertilisation.
Wrong. We get 100% of our cells from our mothers She grows every cell. The (1) cell contributed by the father, the sperm cell, is destroyed in the process of DNA exchange/fertilization. Only the egg cell remains, fertilized with 50% DNA from each parent, and it then begins to divide of course. And all of those divisions are of the mother, inside the mother, from the mother’s body. Every cell is created by your mother.
DNA is a different thing, our DNA is in all of our cells, and the information of that DNA is 50/50 (except mitochondrial DNA which 100% mother), but the actual physical amino acids of that DNA were all made by the mother’s body.
Eg I make a sandwich. 50% of the recipe came from me, 50% from Martha Stewart’s cookbook. I provide all ingredients, I make it, I eat it. Martha just provided instructions on how she makes hers and I replicated half of that along with half of my ideas to make a new sandwich.
Men only provide 50% DNA at conception which is 50% INFO, not actual biological material, not cells.
Okay, so you do realize that there is no such thing as an „intrinsic mother essence“, right? These are just molecules.
It does NOT matter where the material came from, as long as the molecules are provided. That said, the cells will create most of the molecules variations themself from base molecules, e.g. in case of fatty acid derivatives. Molecules related to energy transfer like NAD or ATP e.g. are generally not provided by the mother but directly synthesized in the cells from predecessor molecules. Similar to all the proteins.
Additionally, there are molecules that are only provided by the mothers body but not synthesized like essential amino acids. They actually have an external origin.
Neither are your cells cow cells because you drink milk or tomato cells because you eat tomatos.
Not sure how the provision of building blocks makes these cells the mothers cells. They Are NOT cells of the mothers body.
I never said there was a “mother essence”, don’t strawman.
Amino acids rarely come in their broken down form, the mother digests them to break them down. That’s how cow milk is broken down into its parts, as you so wisely point out later.
Further, she provides all those molecules and the first molecule.
She made those cells. Why do you want to deny this? It’s honestly so funny, like you’re discovering pregnancy for the first time
Look, whatever dude. Believe in a flat earth or whatever you like.
Still, The fetus‘ cells are not cells of the mother. The few molecules of the egg cell quickly dilute in a sea of newly synthesized molecules by the metabolism of the zygote and its repeating cell Division cycle.
You can keep repeating „because the building blocks are provided by the mother“. But that does not make the cells any more their mothers cells than, again, you being a cow when consuming milk. Your logic does Not make sense.
Its similar (not like) recycling. If I melt down metal from old computers to create a new computer. Then we have actually new components, a new computer. Its Not made up of the old Computer in a conventional sense. Sure on the atomic level its mostly the same atoms, but Talking about inheritance on that level brings the discussion to a completely ridiculous level.
Not sure how you justify any other view on this. Certainly not on the grounds of natural sciences or logic.
Lol it’s not flat earth. Who has the egg? Whose cell is the egg? The zygote is primarily made of the egg and the division and supplies for such are from the mother.
Again, cow’s milk goes in your mouth. Whereas this is being synthesized in your uterus. It’s different, no matter how much you want it to be the same. It’s more akin to a tumor.
The cells come from the mother. They certainly don’t come from the father or from nothingness. Ergo, from mom. That’s how that works. Matter neither created nor destroyed, thermodynamics, etc
Again, I think you are clueless. I agree there is much more nuance to the whole process with hormone gradients and things, but the embryo is its own thing, basically wrapped in a construction site and supplied with building blocks, no matter how hard you wish for the opposite.
And yes, that is pretty much comparable to digestion in a humans that are out of the uterus in the sense that they get stuff to break down, derive building blocks and build up again. The mother takes over the digestion part for embryos, but there is not more magic to this than that.
Okay, so how does the zygote and embryo obtain nutrients to divide?
Men are so intellectually pathetic and cowardly.
It’s not the same as digestion, it’s much more akin to a tumor, the mother is literally giving all life and all cells and all nutrients to the fetus and It’s pretty amazing. That you need to shit on it as something mundane says more about your insecurity you can’t provide it.
Honestly, let your comments stand as a record to everything I’ve said. It’s actually amazing to witness in real time. May you never have children.
I have no interest to Fire back with the same dishonest, reality-bending shit show, nor do I want to take it on a personal level like you.
Still…
While you are being intelectually and logically dishonest, as repeatedly demonstrated by your almost religious and/or uninformed understanding of nature:
literally giving all life and all cells […] to the fetus
It is obvious that there is a deeper frustration on your side, probably rooted in endless unfruitful discussions. Now its time to realize that the reason for this frustration at a base Level is your incomplete and wrong understanding of biology and chemistry.
Puh what a rant.
I actually just want to correct you on one thing and I am also Not sure what you really meant.
But we dont get 100% of our cells from our mothers. We get the mitochondria from our mothers. The cells that enclose those mitochondria are perfectly 50/50 after fertilisation.
Wrong. We get 100% of our cells from our mothers She grows every cell. The (1) cell contributed by the father, the sperm cell, is destroyed in the process of DNA exchange/fertilization. Only the egg cell remains, fertilized with 50% DNA from each parent, and it then begins to divide of course. And all of those divisions are of the mother, inside the mother, from the mother’s body. Every cell is created by your mother.
DNA is a different thing, our DNA is in all of our cells, and the information of that DNA is 50/50 (except mitochondrial DNA which 100% mother), but the actual physical amino acids of that DNA were all made by the mother’s body.
Eg I make a sandwich. 50% of the recipe came from me, 50% from Martha Stewart’s cookbook. I provide all ingredients, I make it, I eat it. Martha just provided instructions on how she makes hers and I replicated half of that along with half of my ideas to make a new sandwich.
Men only provide 50% DNA at conception which is 50% INFO, not actual biological material, not cells.
Omg…
Okay, so you do realize that there is no such thing as an „intrinsic mother essence“, right? These are just molecules.
It does NOT matter where the material came from, as long as the molecules are provided. That said, the cells will create most of the molecules variations themself from base molecules, e.g. in case of fatty acid derivatives. Molecules related to energy transfer like NAD or ATP e.g. are generally not provided by the mother but directly synthesized in the cells from predecessor molecules. Similar to all the proteins.
Additionally, there are molecules that are only provided by the mothers body but not synthesized like essential amino acids. They actually have an external origin.
Neither are your cells cow cells because you drink milk or tomato cells because you eat tomatos.
Not sure how the provision of building blocks makes these cells the mothers cells. They Are NOT cells of the mothers body.
You are absolutely clueless, I fear.
I never said there was a “mother essence”, don’t strawman.
Amino acids rarely come in their broken down form, the mother digests them to break them down. That’s how cow milk is broken down into its parts, as you so wisely point out later.
Further, she provides all those molecules and the first molecule.
She made those cells. Why do you want to deny this? It’s honestly so funny, like you’re discovering pregnancy for the first time
Look, whatever dude. Believe in a flat earth or whatever you like.
Still, The fetus‘ cells are not cells of the mother. The few molecules of the egg cell quickly dilute in a sea of newly synthesized molecules by the metabolism of the zygote and its repeating cell Division cycle.
You can keep repeating „because the building blocks are provided by the mother“. But that does not make the cells any more their mothers cells than, again, you being a cow when consuming milk. Your logic does Not make sense.
Its similar (not like) recycling. If I melt down metal from old computers to create a new computer. Then we have actually new components, a new computer. Its Not made up of the old Computer in a conventional sense. Sure on the atomic level its mostly the same atoms, but Talking about inheritance on that level brings the discussion to a completely ridiculous level.
Not sure how you justify any other view on this. Certainly not on the grounds of natural sciences or logic.
Lol it’s not flat earth. Who has the egg? Whose cell is the egg? The zygote is primarily made of the egg and the division and supplies for such are from the mother.
Again, cow’s milk goes in your mouth. Whereas this is being synthesized in your uterus. It’s different, no matter how much you want it to be the same. It’s more akin to a tumor.
The cells come from the mother. They certainly don’t come from the father or from nothingness. Ergo, from mom. That’s how that works. Matter neither created nor destroyed, thermodynamics, etc
Again, I think you are clueless. I agree there is much more nuance to the whole process with hormone gradients and things, but the embryo is its own thing, basically wrapped in a construction site and supplied with building blocks, no matter how hard you wish for the opposite.
And yes, that is pretty much comparable to digestion in a humans that are out of the uterus in the sense that they get stuff to break down, derive building blocks and build up again. The mother takes over the digestion part for embryos, but there is not more magic to this than that.
Okay, so how does the zygote and embryo obtain nutrients to divide?
Men are so intellectually pathetic and cowardly.
It’s not the same as digestion, it’s much more akin to a tumor, the mother is literally giving all life and all cells and all nutrients to the fetus and It’s pretty amazing. That you need to shit on it as something mundane says more about your insecurity you can’t provide it.
Honestly, let your comments stand as a record to everything I’ve said. It’s actually amazing to witness in real time. May you never have children.
I have no interest to Fire back with the same dishonest, reality-bending shit show, nor do I want to take it on a personal level like you.
Still…
While you are being intelectually and logically dishonest, as repeatedly demonstrated by your almost religious and/or uninformed understanding of nature:
It is obvious that there is a deeper frustration on your side, probably rooted in endless unfruitful discussions. Now its time to realize that the reason for this frustration at a base Level is your incomplete and wrong understanding of biology and chemistry.