That is what I wonder. Don’t know about you guys, but I feel like a European patriot, even though this maybe does not make sense to some.

Being a true European patriot means to me: caring about all of the freedoms we have, our social democracies, is to value the open pluralist societies we developed since WW2, wanting to protect what the reactionaries want to take away from us, stop those who want to lock us all up, back in the small closed-minded nation-states we all come from, which will ultimately lick the boots of either US or China/Russia.

They are well organized, but what is the organization, the movement that fights against this ongoing attack on our shared values and mode of existence?

The post-WW2 Europe is an oasis of bliss in a world which is on fire, and we are all under attack. How can we fight against this destruction from the inside as well as from the outside ?

  • 𝔗𝔢𝔯 𝔐𝔞𝔵𝔦𝔪𝔞@jlai.lu
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    100% unconditional intolerance for fascists. You can’t give them a millimeter or they’ll take the entire country.

    I suggest watching Thought Slime’s recent video if you wish to know how to effectively counteract fascists.

    The gist is that you shouldn’t try to argue with them, they don’t care about reality. Don’t let them look reasonable by arguing as if they were, insist on pointing out they’re being assholes (which they are) and that anything they suggest is so obviously wrong it doesn’t even need to be explained why it’s wrong (which is true).

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      The gist is that you shouldn’t try to argue with them, they don’t care about reality.

      That may be true on a face to face level. In public, like on social media, it’s essential to keep arguing. Not to convince the person you’re arguing with, but to show other people reading that theirs is not the only perspective, nor is it the majority.

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        While you’re right, it’s incredibly frustrating when it’s near-impossible to convince onlookers on how the fascists operate on complete bad faith and we really should just not give them any time of day at all and ban them

        I’ve had great difficulties in convincing people to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt, leading to the fascists further exploiting it for their own gain

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      Yeah you can’t argue with logic and reason of the other side does not accept this language and is always acting in bad faith. Engaging fascists civilly is always helping them gain ground. But not engaging with them becomes more difficult the more mind share they gain. How should not engaging look in practice? All of politics and media would need to stop giving them a platform at once. And again this is something we regular people don’t really have in our hands at all.