If rolled out widely, this would make web browsers and third-party YouTube clients without a DRM license unusable for YouTube playback, download, etc. This would include almost all open-source web browsers and almost all third-party YouTube clients. Archive link to reddit post about this
The number one reason I use YouTube is for fitness routines I can do at home (going to a physical gym means I will not workout), and keeping up on finance news. I will gladly find other ways to get this information. I just use YouTube because it’s the easiest and has all of the people I like in one place.
This is fine. I actually encourage this. Let the market decide whether it likes this.
The issue is that hosting costs for videos are insane. There’s nowhere else to turn except for Youtube (unfortunately PeerTube is so far off being a reasonable alternative). I would love to see some more competition, but I don’t see it happening in the close future. The sad state of things is that 90% of the population won’t care if their favorite MrBeast video has DRM.
It isn’t an issue. I mean it is a completely artificial issue that was created by YouTube itself. What do I mean? That only ~0.01% of those videos should really be videos. All other things could easily be in a text form. Storing text is cheap. Searching text is convenient. Reading text is easier.
The sad state of things is that 90% of the population won’t care if their favorite MrBeast video has DRM.
Agreed!!
(unfortunately PeerTube is so far off being a reasonable alternative)
Why? Because of the hosting cost? Where is Youtube getting this for cheap?
Because of the hosting cost? Where is Youtube getting this for cheap?
More than 500 hours of video content are uploaded to YouTube every minute (reference). The cost of operating this system is astronomical. Building a competing platform is entirely out of reach unless you have nation-state levels of wealth.
YouTube’s costs are effectively subsidized by Alphabet (Google). All of the restrictions being implemented are about trying to make YouTube profitable, especially by protecting the ad revenue stream.
Youtube is already profitable. Has been for like 5 years
I mean, I could see PeerTube being an alternative if there was better discoverability, better tools for creators to monetize their work, and there was a huge influx of people moving over to PeerTube as well as starting their own instances in order to spread out the hosting and make it less expensive for everyone involved. YouTube isn’t getting it for cheap, they’re just financed by one of the world’s largest companies and have huge amounts of revenue.
Yeah, If content creators (at least 1 in 10) ran their own instance, I think PeerTube could be a pretty good alternative and the cost would be split between instances.
Google is also experimenting with my not using YouTube any more.
This kills the YouTube. Maybe not quickly, but it will be a large nail in the coffin should they double down on it.
Its a shame that content creators don’t truly own the content on YouTube and can simply opt out of DRM on their videos.
Also weird timing considering boycotting is a common topic right now.
Y’all could just pay 🤷♂️
Make the app worth paying for. I pay for Nebula because its worth it
Then don’t use it f you like nebula. Why are you all wasting time bitching about an app that’s not worth it?
Because they are thieves and hate having that pointed out to them
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How’s that boot taste?
Better than being poor and delusional about being entitled to steal 🤣
I honestly love the bootlicker tag. It tells me everything I need to know about your alignment with reality. You just want to be mad to argue on the Internet. Nothing based in reality to offer. A sad deplorable existence.
It’s always ethical to steal from billion dollar corporations
Okay, but you have the expectations of them making it easy?
Folks in here feel entitled to the easy of blocking ads while simultaneously decrying the value of the service and refusal to pay.
Not when I can’t even get a DRM-free MP3 from the payments. If I could, I’d reconsider that.
I know I know, that’s how the world works. You as the buyer get to set the terms 🤣
I used to when the price was fair for family plan, but now I’m on the high seas. It’s a price issue, they are making billions , no need to fleece us.
False. Fake news. You’ve just invented that out of nowhere like a desperate trumpet who doesn’t know how to use Google.
YT has never made a dime unless that’s changed in the last year. YT has always been a loss leader.
Stop lying to win internet arguments. It’s pathetic and sad.
I’ve been thinking about using Nebula. Does anyone has any experience with it?
Its got some great creators, Ive been on there a couple of years. Only downside which some might be glad to be rid of is a lack of comments, and feedback. Without any interaction you’re just watching videos; doesn’t feel like a community or conversation.
Seems a shame because there are creators who appear to value the voice of the community on a platform where their audience has no voice.
There’s a thread from five years ago where a founder Dave Wiskus said they had plans for a thread-like comments section. So it’s weird; must not align with whatever else it is they’re doing.
I’d say the same thing about dropout TV. How can we get in the comments without a comments section!?
How to kill YouTube in one stupid step.
I guess their CEO wasn’t paying attention when the music industry got trounced by pirating.
They went and paid for Spotify.
Like most heavy users of YTP. YouTube will be just fine. Y’all just freeloaders. Pay you cheap bastards.
Already paid in personal data before I was smart enough to try and close the faucet, I don’t see why I should pay more
Because prices change. You can stop using it if you don’t feel the value is there.
Alright, so is my current data worth more or less than my old data? Is my old data worth more or less today than, say, 3 years ago? I don’t see a reason to pay if Google refuses to let people know how much they are worth to them, first.
YouTube was acting a loss leader for years.
Your data has increased in value since then, so has the cost to run the service. These things aren’t some mutually exclusive bubble. This is not how businesses are run, certainly not public traded companies. Many consumers do find the value in a $22/mo video + music sub. We use it a lot.
I have no expectations of a free experience and I get nearly all my families entertainment media via a single subscription. If they raise it beyond my expectations I will steal it or look elsewhere depending on the quality of the content at that time.
But for now, it’s a fantastic service.
I get nearly all my families entertainment media via a single subscription
Jesus christ. You might wanna come up for air, dude
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I’d happily pay if youtube stopped falsley demonitizing all the creators I watch. I refuse to give money to copyright trolls. If I pay youtube then youtube just hands a portion of that money to copyright trolls, no questions asked.
How exactly will this kill YouTube? This will only kill ad blockers.
Probably not going to kill it, but the number of users and view counts will drop dramatically. The idea is, that it cuts all deadweight users, which reduces Google’s expenses.
Everyone who is allergic to ads, will leave and find their video entertainment elsewhere. As far as those users are concerned, YT will be dead to them.
Those who remain, will either pay up, or have ads shoved down their throats. Line goes up, and shareholders are happy. The money must flow.
As the enshittification of YT has marched towards its terminal stage, many youtubers have already prepared for it by migrating their videos to other platforms. YT doesn’t like tits, so those videos had to go to Onlyfans, Justforfans or whatever. YT doesn’t like guns, so those videos went to Pepperbox. YT doesn’t like providing a steady income to anyone, so many videos went to Nebula. Then there’s also palces like Floatplane, Locals, Playeur etc. I’m sure there are lots of other video platforms too. The way I see it, YT can die, and the fragmented video landscape will only thrive as a result.
Sure, but I still think yall are really overestimating how many people will actually care. You might need to reevaluate your bias. The average person will definitely not change apps or websites. Maybe 1% of users will care to find an alternative for their video needs. And even then, some videos are only on YouTube.
Oh, but here’s the thing. YT is already abusing the people who make the videos. Many of them are already using YT as a platform for promoting their real video platform. They will only upload advertisers friendly watered down versions and mention at the end that if you want to see the real one, head over to one of the countless other platforms they’ve built over the years. All of that is already happening, and it can become a significant factor in the future.
Will it though? Who knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If it does, it means that more and more people will migrate to the real video platforms where they can watch the uncut version of every video. I think there’s real potential to shift the video consumption culture from one ad supported platform that abuses everyone involved to several paid platforms, that treat everyone much better.
It won’t kill adblockers, because adblockers don’t circumvent DRM.
DRM in the video feed would allow encrypted ads in the videos, and effectively break normal ad blockers.
Nah, maybe some people will switch ad blockers off, but for most, the msin takeaway will be to look for a competing service.
What competing service
Other entertainment. If Youtube makes my head hurt, I’ll go touch grass, watch a movie, read some news, play boardgames, etc.
And if one can’t get out of their phone, then there is Tiktok I guess.
