• empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    21 hours ago

    I hope we’re not paying more for a player that does less…

    You are and will be, as the cost of hardware in “smart” devices (and the reason that non-smart TV’s no longer exist) are subsidized with on-device advertising and massive data collection/reselling.

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      19 hours ago

      Yeah. Part of me wonders how much of a premium that making a TV dumb would be and if there is a large enough market that would buy into it.

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        10 hours ago

        Why not purchase one subsidized by ads then just not connect it to the internet? Seems like a win-win

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            5 hours ago

            Can you provide an example of one that only works online? I have never heard of that.

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              5 hours ago

              I’m not sure we’re there yet, but we’re certainly in the “nag banners on a frequent basis” realm on TVs. Not technically unusable, but practically unusable.

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                5 hours ago

                Fair, but I don’t think we should want to pay a premium for a dumb TV in fear of a hypothetical future. Perhaps worthwhile if it ever happens, but until then buying a subsidized smart TV and keeping it dumb seems fully better to me.

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                  5 hours ago

                  Disagree. You have to vote with your wallet. It’s not like the manufactures aren’t going to continue down the road they’re on. The only thing that will stop them is losing sales because of this crap.

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        14 hours ago

        They already exist. You just have to look for “signage displays” or “commercial TV’s”, they come with all the smart crap stripped out.

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          9 hours ago

          Iiyama screens are some of the best commercial screens. Unfortunately commercial screens usually lack the plug in and play features on domestic tellys, which can be a right faff

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              4 hours ago

              I’d imagine they mean features like HDMI CEC, input-based picture mode memory/adjustment, support for high-quality audio (like Atmos), etc.

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    21 hours ago

    My number 1 requirement is being able to disable HDR, my sets don’t implement it correctly and HDR content is unwatchable because of it.

    The only fix is to disable it on the device as the sets don’t have that option.

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      21 hours ago

      Now I’m genuinely curious: what if you get a super-old and cheap HDMI cable? I’m talking like HDMI 1.2 or 1.4. What are the chances that your tv will be able to process whatever resolution video but not receive enough information to interpret HDR?

      Or, it’ll likely be more like running gigabit from a cheap router over Cat3 or paired Cat1 where the high frequency generates so much noise on the low-quality unshielded twists of cable that it struggles to assign any standards and you end up with nothing.

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          16 hours ago

          I think 1.4 does 4K @30Hz. Anyway, I could have sworn most TVs have the ability to turn off HDR, or at least have picture modes incompatible with HDR. Loophole, baby!

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            13 hours ago

            Yeah, Samsung not so much. The non-HDR picture is vibrant and gorgeous. The HDR is dark, muddy, and unwatchable.

            Fortunately all the devices I have feeding them have the option to disable it.

            Example:

            HDR On:

            HDR Off: