Hi all, thank you for reading my post. modlod link
Clocks got banned first after suggesting that the OP try to be a genuine friend and try to find some common cause in real life rather than alienating people over abstract geopolitical factionalism:
I raised the issue that censoring earnest advice as ‘tankie apologia’ and preemtively writing off any common cause/ isolating people is no way to win people over either as friends or comrades.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if ‘genuinely be their friend’ is ‘tankie apologia’ to be censored, I’m not sure you’re going to be very successful convincing anyone of anything in the real world.
yeah that’s the context, I was just laughing because:
- only Lemmy users with an axe to grind call them that
- it sounds really silly, like they’re a nemesis to dr venture.
- I’m supposed to be the melodramatic one yet every day I get one-upped 😔
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I’m not here to tell them how to run their comm, my position is that this is way more draconian than anything I’ve run into in any of ‘the tankie triad’. The same groups of people loudly complaining about censorship on ‘tankie’ run instances don’t seem to have a problem enforcing vague/arbitrary vibes based censorship in their spaces.
If Marxists are not leftist, I do not know who is.
I described authoritarians. Socialists, communists, and anarchists are not tankies unless they defend authoritarian regimes.
Name one instance of real life communism that wasn’t authoritarian.
but diva didn’t do that
Well, they have dominated Marxist politics for quite a while, and I am not sure you can say they are not leftists because they are authoritarian, they have a lot more in common ideologically with other Marxists/socialists than the right, just because they prefer certain methods does not mean they are not leftists, and they do have traits that have always been associated with leftism, like opposition to tradition, monarchy, even capitalism, desire for revolution, etc.
If the “certain methods” they prefer are killing all other leftists when they get into power, then they don’t get to hang out in our spaces. Do you even understand how stupid that sounds?
Just because you do not want them near your spaces does not mean they are not leftists.
I understand perfectly well how stupid that sounds, possibly better than you.
Just as long as you’re aware of your stupidity, bootlicker.
I am not a Marxist.
Very rude behaviour from you lot, I hope it is not representative of the character of your movement.
Being a bootlicker has nothing to do with Marxism. If you don’t know what words mean, do not use them.
I will simplify:
I assumed you called me a bootlicker for supporting “tankies”. Otherwise your comment makes no sense. I refuted that. If you did not mean that , what did you mean?