The technological race among industry giants and the wave of layoffs they have announced has revived the debate about the advisability of taxing automation
This is a moronic take. Do we also tax tools when they make a 4 person job a 1/2 person job? This is just an ass backwards way of approaching the wealth inequality and poor working conditions issues by focusing on a tool instead of the system itself.
ok apparently we do in fact tax tools. And I can see how AI, being on the cloud, might not normally fall under computer equipment or other things that would be taxed, thus needing it to be specifically included in tax law. Fuck me on that one.
I’ll give you that.
BUT
I still stand by this being a bandaid to a much larger problem concerning capitalists exploiting the labor of many and not being required to give everyone fair pay/equity. The inequality between the workforce and the ownership class is the problem. Them using AI is just their current tool of oppression, but not their only.
We need to address the root cause and directly tax the billionaires. And remove stock backed loans or at least realize their gains and tax them whenever they do use them as collateral for a loan. Shouldnt be able to claim unrealized gains and use it for collateral at the same time.
If companies start giving everyone fair pay/equity all the system collapse, even China the most communist country in the world right now don’t do that, inequity it’s what keep a certain amount of money flowing, unless you want all people dying of hunger or worst. I’m not saying capitalism is the perfect system but the imperfection of it it’s what make it work. we can’t pretend a perfect world is possible and make a living on dreaming. there will be always poor people and rich people just like there are smart people and dumb people, no everyone is equal.
It’s cooperation that got us here. It was that cooperation that made the infrastructure which without these people could not have accumulated the amount of wealth they are accumulating.
The government’s sole purpose is insuring and guiding this cooperation. This should also include guiding a reasonable distribution of wealth. It will not be a prosperous society if only a few men have all the wealth and resources.
This does not mean we should all have equal wealth either.
But as a society, maybe we should rethink how we guide this distribution.
I hate that so much. Being “people” they can essentially “out-compete” actual people in the political process. It’s very much “anything you can do I can do better”. That’s why any solution has to target them directly.
And the companies can exist for centuries, acquiring all of that enormous wealth, and “donate” a tiny sliver of it to politicians and watch them fight over the scraps.
I wish we treated corporate crimes as personal crimes committed by the CEO. If they want the cover of personhood, then they get everything that comes with that. See how fast they want to return to being corporations. As it is now, they get the best of both worlds as it suits them.
This is a moronic take. Do we also tax tools when they make a 4 person job a 1/2 person job? This is just an ass backwards way of approaching the wealth inequality and poor working conditions issues by focusing on a tool instead of the system itself.
I mean, we easily could.
I pay property tax on my business tools.
So you just extend that concept. I don’t see why not.
ok apparently we do in fact tax tools. And I can see how AI, being on the cloud, might not normally fall under computer equipment or other things that would be taxed, thus needing it to be specifically included in tax law. Fuck me on that one.
I’ll give you that.
BUT
I still stand by this being a bandaid to a much larger problem concerning capitalists exploiting the labor of many and not being required to give everyone fair pay/equity. The inequality between the workforce and the ownership class is the problem. Them using AI is just their current tool of oppression, but not their only.
We need to address the root cause and directly tax the billionaires. And remove stock backed loans or at least realize their gains and tax them whenever they do use them as collateral for a loan. Shouldnt be able to claim unrealized gains and use it for collateral at the same time.
If companies start giving everyone fair pay/equity all the system collapse, even China the most communist country in the world right now don’t do that, inequity it’s what keep a certain amount of money flowing, unless you want all people dying of hunger or worst. I’m not saying capitalism is the perfect system but the imperfection of it it’s what make it work. we can’t pretend a perfect world is possible and make a living on dreaming. there will be always poor people and rich people just like there are smart people and dumb people, no everyone is equal.
I mean real world isn’t equal.
It isn’t black and white either.
It’s cooperation that got us here. It was that cooperation that made the infrastructure which without these people could not have accumulated the amount of wealth they are accumulating. The government’s sole purpose is insuring and guiding this cooperation. This should also include guiding a reasonable distribution of wealth. It will not be a prosperous society if only a few men have all the wealth and resources. This does not mean we should all have equal wealth either. But as a society, maybe we should rethink how we guide this distribution.
AI is ruining our climate, RAM prices, HDD prices qnd more. They should pay a lil extranfor that
climate being ruined long before ai, and the PC hardware is just suppliers being allowed to price-gouge people.
Remember, in USA companies are people, so they bribe the government with donations just like people, also money is free speech.
If they are people, they should pay taxes, why not? I say DO IT
I hate that so much. Being “people” they can essentially “out-compete” actual people in the political process. It’s very much “anything you can do I can do better”. That’s why any solution has to target them directly.
And the companies can exist for centuries, acquiring all of that enormous wealth, and “donate” a tiny sliver of it to politicians and watch them fight over the scraps.
I wish we treated corporate crimes as personal crimes committed by the CEO. If they want the cover of personhood, then they get everything that comes with that. See how fast they want to return to being corporations. As it is now, they get the best of both worlds as it suits them.
Yeah, that would be great. Unfortunately, our government is working for them now. This is gonna get weird
It’s just a capital gains tax