Time is on the side of the Russians in Ukraine and the Chinese on pretty much anything else when it comes to confronting the US empire.

But ever since the ceasefire in Lebanon and the fall of Assad I can’t help but feel that the Palestinian cause is getting worse every day. No one is lifting a finger for them except the Yemenis and it only seems that the Zionist fucks are getting closer to their objectives.

Civil war in “Israel” when? True Promise 3 when (lol)?

It doesn’t help that some of the loudest voices cheering for Assad’s fall where Palestinians and that sectarism is strong against Shia’s…

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    I’ve mentioned submarines several times, as an example of how stupid the “nukes next door” thing is. They’re already “next door”. There are nuclear submarines capable of hitting Moscow already patrolling the Baltic Sea. It doesn’t matter if they are right next door on land, or right next door in the water. They are already there, and have been for decades.

    I live in a coastal city, and we all know for a fact that there are Russian submarines patrolling the waters off our coast. There are not enough bomb shelters in the world for everyone to get into one before they’d have a chance to launch. Do you understand how naive this line of reasoning is? Bomb shelters are only good, if you have one right under house…and you never leave home.

    What prevents a nuclear attack from happening, is not how far away the bombs are. It’s the fact that if anyone launches a nuclear strike against someone else…they will be met with nuclear level retaliation. Distance isn’t what keeps you safe. The threat of mutually assured destruction does. You would have to be God-tier insane to actually use nukes against a civilian population. It would guarantee your own destruction.

    This is an “honest discussion” about nuclear war. What you are doing is not. You are basing your entire argument on outdated, and utterly baseless fear mongering tactics. It is not a valid argument. At all. It makes no sense whatsoever that you keep trying it.

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      You’re just not willing to accept that I may even possibly have valid points and are now laughing and accusing me of dishonesty. That’s enough. Like I said in my last post, I no longer wish to discuss this with you.

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        I’m not “accusing you of dishonesty”. I’m saying that an “honest discussion” about nuclear war includes the reality of what makes it dangerous or not. And claiming that distance makes you safer, is not a reality. It is fiction. That doesn’t mean you are lying. It means you’ve been lied to about what Russia is hoping to achieve by attacking Ukraine. It has nothing to do with making Russia safer. That is a fictional excuse.

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          Thanks for clarifying. I think there may be a misunderstanding about my argument. I’m not saying that distance necessarily makes us safer from my own perspective. I could agree with you that mutually assured destruction is probably the end result regardless of distance. The point I’m making is that for military and national security experts, distance (and consequently time before being hit) is assuredly considered a factor, despite what you or I may think. This article may provide some useful background on these concepts. There may be better articles out there but I happened to run across this one when I searched for when ICBMs became viable.

          I’ve mentioned this before, but the US nearly completely lost it when they found out that there were Russian nukes in Cuba in 1962. The same exact scenario would be just as alarming to the US today. Trying to wave away Russia’s concerns with this type of scenario is unrealistic. Have you ever watched Dr. Mearsheimer speak? If you haven’t, it’s worth looking on Youtube for his name and Russia or Ukraine. He is a renowned scholar in international relations who has a realistic perspective of West-Russia relations and who speaks very clearly about it.