Eh … now you don’t know what to think huh? 🤔🤪😆

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    But less people means less services

    Yeah, since you’re not being a dick, I have to agree. Nobody remotely objective says the federal government seems overstaffed, kinda the opposite, and Carney seems to really believe in AI as magic pixie dust. They’re probably going to have to scale back their plans once rubber hits the road, and we’ll either get a bigger deficit or new taxes.

    What they didn’t cut was everything else. My teeth are still covered, for example. That would not be true of a Conservative budget, which would also cut back things that have been around for decades rather than years, like the CBC.

    When I said you were speaking like a liberal it was in response to “tricking” Alberta into increasing the carbon tax. The only time I’ve seen the lead buried that deeply is in LPC press material and from its surrogates. Because…

    Hey, some of what you’re saying sounds like an NDP or Green press release. And I’m pretty sure “everyone won” is the current Liberal line, not “we suckered somebody”.

    Sure, oil companies win on certain things. They also have to pay a higher carbon tax, which is a big win for the climate. We’ll see if anything comes from Pathways, which would mostly be a win for the climate. Danielle Smith just loses.

    Describing Carney as moving Canada toward the centre is absurd, considering what he’s actually doing.

    Trudeau was the first or second most left-wing PM ever. What’s to the right of the left?

    All of Trudeaus trade-offs and pet projects are gone

    The water treatment project is still underway if delayed again; the tree planting will stop at the original billion but it’s not gone. The carbon tax is only gone for consumers. And, like mentioned, dental/pharma care are still around, although that was an NDP policy.

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      You’re arguing that the conservatives are worse…I agree with that.

      I’m arguing that the Liberals acting like conservatives makes the conservatives tack even further to the right, and we slide and slide into late stage capitalist hell.

      Trudeau was to the right of Mulroney and on-par with Harper…you’re just cold-trippin’. He’s not even in the too 10 most-leftist. Now it sounds like I’m listening to conservative propaganda. Totally nuts. Conservative Icon Diefenbaker was more socialist than Trudeau Jr…as was Trudeau Sr, and Pearson, and MacKenzie King, etcetcetc

      Dental care was an NDP policy…let’s not rewrite history and forget we literally had a snap election because Trudeau initially didn’t want to pass it.

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        I was there for Harper; remember the barbaric cultural practices hotline? Remember the fisheries library just being tossed? The only contender for further left is Lester Pearson (by the standards of his time), who brought in the healthcare system. I’m not even being original here, it’s pretty standardly what you’d hear from a pundit.

        I’m arguing that the Liberals acting like conservatives makes the conservatives tack even further to the right, and we slide and slide into late stage capitalist hell.

        Just looking around the world, I’m certain the right is pulling, not being pushed.

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          Harpers’ culture war posturing wasn’t policy. He was bad, but no worse than Justin - who’s trade and corporate policy was to the right of Harper. Justin, of course, was a culture war liberal with his gender equal cabinet etc

          Oh? Not McKenzie King who brought in UI and the Baby Bonus? Not Diefenbaker who mass-funded hospitals? Not Pierre that brought in the Charter of Righrs on Freedoms? EtcEtc. Justin governed right of centre…a boiler plate neoliberal just like Harper was. Pardon me, but you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

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            If everyone else doesn’t know what they’re talking about, maybe you don’t know what you’re talking about.

            Justin, of course, was a culture war liberal with his gender equal cabinet etc

            So on the left.

            I think I’ll just leave it there.