• SupraMario@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Suicide isn’t an accident and neither is domestic violence. You don’t accidentally off yourself and you can’t accidentally have domestic violence. You also can’t suicide via water either…well not without a ton of work.

    You’re bullshit stat is about how having a gun magically makes you more likely to be a victim of gun violence, which is not correct.

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        4 days ago

        Because the point is that drowning is mainly via an accident. You don’t accidentally suicide yourself. And your link is really “no shit” stats. You can’t kill yourself and be in the “suicide with a firearm” if you don’t use a fucking firearm. These are “water is wet” stats that are pointless.

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            4 days ago

            Naa I’m claiming that you’re suggesting that it’s a monsoon when it’s more like a mist.

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              And for the record I’m not suggesting anything. I’m giving you facts and sources. Which you respond to with nothing more than a dismissal of avoidable death and violence as not important. It’s pretty weird honestly.

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                  Peer reviewed journals articles are not “a survey”. That’s the highest standard of proof we have. You’re been repeatedly demonstrated false and just stick your head in the sand. I’m out as that this point seems like bad faith argument.

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                    Data from a US mortality follow-back survey were analyzed to determine whether having a firearm in the home increases the risk of a violent death in the home and whether risk varies by storage practice, type of gun, or number of guns in the home.

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                4 days ago

                Of which 2/3rds are suicides…which would be preventable if we had single payer in this country, but instead of using the political capital on that, the anti-2a groups burn it on a topic that doesn’t have nearly the support that they think it does.