Damn, it looks amazing

Mhh, I would prefer to take a safer option, but thanks for the useful infos :)

Interesting, but I find the documentation pretty light. Doesn’t help me trust it. Seems like you either have to self host a whole web server or stream to a third party websites that doesn’t really explain how security is handled.

Windows, but I’ll be switching to Linux eventually, so I would prefer a solution that supports both OS

Alright! I try to stay away from WebRTC / browser stuff though, as I feel like it’s too limiting (limited codecs, quality, settings, often slow…)

Someone proposed this before. I’ll have to try, but I’m afraid it will be a bit janky. Can’t only stream a specific app with sound, and probably can’t configure too much (quality, FPS, …)

What should I use with OBS? I believe it can’t be used by itself, and I need something to stream to.

That’s what I was looking into but yea, it seems their screen sharing capabilities are still too limited. Thanks for sharing though :)

For full sharing I chose Moonlight + Sunshine which gives great visuals and sound, but it has the drawback of also outputing audio when in a call. Isn’t this similar?

I’m looking for screensharing without control

I’ll have to try, but I’m afraid it will be a bit janky. Can’t only stream a specific app with sound

Thank you as well, and thank you for your work, as it seems you contribute to FOSS :)

Might join this team as well one day, when I’ll have the skills to!

The privacy statement shows big words and all, but I’m interested in the legal page of privacy policy. Unfortunately, an orange flag is that it isn’t easily available from anywhere, which is a bad practice. Here is its link: https://mailbox.org/en/data-protection

It’s not written like ordinary privacy policies, they organized it in categories, which funnily enough makes it harder to read and understand.

Overall it’s pretty good but a lot of things aren’t mentioned. It seems like the IP with which you registered is permanently stored on their servers. Big red flag if that’s the case. Consider using a VPN/proxy when creating an account if that matters to you.

It seems like they also let you store your private key encrypted by a password, which is a nice way to do it. Incoming emails are encrypted this way which makes them encrypted at rest. I wonder how it works with other email clients though. Nothing to say more than it’s perfect.

They don’t use the content of your emails, they don’t sell your data or “track” you. That’s nice!

NOTE: I actually didn’t read proton’s privacy policy! So I can’t compare both, but in terms of privacy you’re pretty good with mailbox. Their analytics respect your privacy overall. Anonymity isn’t perfect but they allow VPNs and Tor exit nodes. They would benefit from having more transparency around this subject: data collection and time of retention.

For sure! You have every right and I won’t expect maintainers to take their time doing things. I just expect them not to profit from my use of their work by paying with my data or similar, and if they do, good for them, but I won’t support them

No worries! That’s kind of you :)

My simple answer for encryption is that encryption at rest ensures that if the mail provider gets hacked or an employee goes rogue, your mails won’t leak. This as well as them not being able to hand out your mail in case of an investigation. That’s pretty much their only advantage over a classical host.

Then you’re good. My main complaint is for the free plan. You either pay or are forced to use their UI and protocols. Most users are on the free plan and as such, enter kind of a walled garden

Their predatory pricing also doesn’t make them look great

Do you think that is a good situation?

Yes, it should be the most important aspect of it. If the devs can live with it through donations and the project becomes their full time work, good, but that should never come at the expense of the user.

Why “should” it be the goal of the dev? Who are you to decide that for the developer?

That’s just my vision of it. Everyone is free to do whatever they want, but for me that’s a requirement for FOSS projects.

That’s a prediction and I don’t know what data you’re basing that off of. Could you share it?

Just a logical enshitification way. Profits always comes at a price. Keeping your project free while being for-profit often means getting forked and dying, much like ownCloud.

Those are all assumptions. You do not know if the search engine is making enough money already. They might be trying to make money in the first place and getting it in front of users might be a way to raise awareness popularity. There are also companies like ecosia, duckduckgo, qwant, startpage and others that do care about privacy. Would you be against their sponsorship too?

Whatever the end goal is, it’s still advertising and it’s impacting users’ freedom of choice by setting a default and virtually discouraging the use of other engines.

This kind of info is often hidden (didn’t try Waterfox but I bet that it won’t say that the default search engine gives them money when you first start the browser), because they know it might make them look bad.

Isn’t the proton bridge only available for paid customers?

Most free open source projects are hobbies, not jobs. As such, the goal of devs is often (and should be) to deliver a good product to people, no strings attached. Your time then gets partially compensated by donations. Expecting revenues with this project will slowly move you towards the non-free open source projects category, which while better than proprietary closed source, is not the best interest of users.

I would imagine if a search engine is willing to sponsor a project in a way, then it must make enough money to justify that, and that often comes with bad privacy. I guess the default is Bing or something? The revenue comes at the expense of users on the default settings.

Donations! Most free open source projects are either not funded or through donations. Devs don’t have to work full time on them.

Being funded through search engine partnerships is by definition against privacy

How exactly is this different from Proton?

Another elevator enjoyer 😎