• Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net
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        Stealing profits that are already made by stealing? Yeah, I have no sympathy for that.

        Tax payers already pay for this shit through federal funding of the sciences, just for the publishers to turn around and steal people’s time and money to view and peer review them. Publishers are thieves, so they can go fuck themselves.

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          I agree, If the research was funded by the government; then the research belongs to the people.

          Publishers and corporations is why IP laws are so fucked up beyond recognition.

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    You see, the problem, publishers, is that your “business” should not have been a business in the first place.

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    While it’s true that publishers do something of value, the amount they charge is absurd.

    What makes it even worse is that so many of the people involved are donating their labour. It reminds me of college sports in the US. The actual people doing the work, the athletes, are forced to do it for free. Meanwhile, a few select groups: coaches, TV networks, etc. are making huge amounts of money.

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      Yeah, I have no problem with people being compensated for their work.

      The problem is that the discussion usually ends at “compensation” and never includes “how much?” Useful idiots believe that whatever price is charged is always fair and necessary, which is sad.

      In a system literally built around the amount of money we have, we sure do like to believe that magnitude doesn’t matter.

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    “stolen” is such an exaggerated misrepresentation…news organizations should really do better. When you steal something from someone, the owner loses access to it. She just liberated public research.

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      These articles were stolen, by the paywall operators. Elbakyan rescued them from the thieves. 🎉

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      This is why I hate the recent trend where people are saying “If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing”

      “Piracy”, or more accurately “copyright infringement” was never stealing. What you’re doing is violating the government-granted monopoly on copying something. That’s so different from stealing.

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      I totally agree that she just liberated it. But since many lawsuits said she was “stealing” from them, and people who don’t know the details at first glance may think that too. So I think the headline is correct in a news sense. And the article is very accurate and favorable of her.

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      When a regular person makes something available that shouldnt be behind a paywall to begin with it’s stealing. When a billionaire or company uses ai to gather data from paid sources or just straight out plagiarises it’s just maximising profits.

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      Also I have met people who have published some pretty important papers, most of them use scihub on a weekly basis, and none of them care that their papers get “stolen”. And they all have some strong opinions about Elsevier.

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      like stealing video games that you technically license if you buy, you’re not stealing anything except access which is fundamentally the only thing they can sell

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    I realize this is an older article from 2016. But it’s just so good, I had to share it in case some here aren’t familiar with her. Her name is Alexandra Elbakyan and she’s the person behind Sci-Hub, a library website that provides free access to millions of research papers, regardless of copyright, by bypassing publishers’ paywalls in various ways.

    And she’s my personal hero. :)