• glimse@lemmy.world
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        11 days ago

        Cigarettes look so uncool, though. Hardly a step up from vapes and they fuckin stiiiinnnnk.

        I would much rather be near someone vaping their blueberry muffin raztastic whatever than a lit cigarette

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        11 days ago

        Vaping is less carcinogenic than smoking by a significant degree but it is carcinogenic

        Acrolein, a carcinogen, forms in small amounts from the breakdown of glycerin during heating

        If a “dry hit” occurs the effect is worsened, acrolein forms in higher amounts, and formaldehyde (another carcinogen) can occur from the breakdown of both glycerin and propylene glycol

        Vaping still leads to inflammation and oxidative stress in the lungs and long term use will almost certainly lead to irreversible damage

        Harm reduction is important. Vaping is likely better than smoking but it is not yet clear whether that is the case. It is likely the case based on short term anecdotal data from people who have switched but this does not mean that long term use won’t create more severe lung issues over a period of 20-30 years. We don’t know.

        In the meantime for further harm reduction to reduce risk you can vape with low temperatures as this mitigates much of the carcinogen risk, you can use reusable devices and frequently change coils and ensure the coil is saturated, and you can use a liquid that is free of flavorings as these present much of the “unknown” variables.

        Or you can work to quit. It is challenging. I smoked and vaped, I know it is tremendously hard. But frankly these companies don’t deserve your money. They’re all fucking scumbags

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    11 days ago

    I’m 45+ and French. This seems very misleading as smoking has been declining a lot the past couple decades.

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        In 2022, an estimated 16.4 million people (8.4 million males and 8.0 million females) aged 15 years and older were tobacco product users in France. This positions the country as the 14th globally and the 3rd in the WHO European Region in terms of number of tobacco users.

        And as someone who works in the service business, I can confirm that there’s a decent amount of smokers.

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      Did it actually? I remember going to france like twice a year like 30 years ago. And my observation was just: everyone smokes.

      When the indoor smoking ban started, i felt like people stopped. Same as over here. But now i feel like at least as many people atarted smoking again. But i haven’t really been in france again in the last 10 years.