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    The president accused Bolton of publishing sensitive information and said the book’s publication “created a grave risk that classified material was publicly exposed.”

    This classified material?

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      Is… is this the real picture? Of the classified material that was shared by trump? Holy fuck lmfao. I thought it was like one letter or something, secretly hidden under the rug; this looks hilarious I’m sorry.

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        That’s not even the worst of it. Several rooms full of documents were found at his property and, though everyone seems to focus on the toilet one, IMO the worst is the one of a storage room full of classified documents plus a scanner/printer.

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          I feel like I’m being trolled right now. This cannot possibly be real.

          And this guy is actually the president. Fuck America. How could this happen.

          I fucking had less boxes when I moved into my new apartment lmfao.

          The printer is a nice little touch. Love the black accent between all these white boxes.

          I mean this honestly: You would tell me if this was fake, right? This is actually real?

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              The question isn’t quite as funny as you think. I am German and didn’t actually expect the USA and their „president“ to be an actual meme.

              Like… this stuff is an actual joke. But it’s your own fault in America.

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            I feel like I’m being trolled right now. This cannot possibly be real.

            It’s real. The US is on an extreme downward spiral and MAGA plays violin whilst the country burns.

            The weird thing is I think we all knew the USA was doomed but I personally didn’t expect to see the downfall in my lifetime and not on a speedrun like it is now. Crazy times

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            Remember, they played an audio recording of him claiming to show classified documents that weren’t declassified to his workers who don’t have clearences.
            https://youtu.be/inVJF0Dr8mo

            He outright admits that the documents aren’t declassified, while knowing he was being recorded, and reads them to people not classified for the documents he’s showing them supposedly. (About 1:20 if want to skip is where he starts admitting to a criminal offense)

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            The best part is that this was known long before he was elected the second time.

            Any one who goes “I was lied to!” is straight-up just an idiot who regrets that they had to feel a consequence. At best they’re just mind-bogglingly ignorant of how the world functions which is no excuse.

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              I agree with you. Everyone who voted for this, or even worse, didn’t vote at all, deserves to get their healthcare, job security and retirement destroyed. And I will laugh at them when they start crying. What a bunch of worthless idiots.

              Is this mean? If so I’m not sorry.

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            Sadly, it is real.

            e: and in case anyone reading this doesn’t get the implication, notice where the only power outlet in this room is (the white cable leading across the ceiling and along the piping to the office printer, which is the whitish thing at the right of this photo).

            It’s basically the only thing besides boxes of documents in this storage room. It was plugged in and being used, not stored. This is so much worse than the toilet photo, yet everyone I show this to hasn’t seen it.

            e2: Oh, and don’t forget, this was the “holdout’ room, to which maintenance supposedly ‘lost’ the key the first couple of times the feds showed up, then right when they got their ‘no, really’ warrant, it was supposedly flooded by a faulty pool pump. That’s this room. Fuck, in all the insanity, I’d forgot that last bit.

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        Yes that’s one of the actual pictures from the indictment they brought against him. He apparently had like 300 different documents of varying levels of classified status. There’s a couple more iirc of different places like a bedroom and a ballroom stage too. Basically it seems like he had his goons just hide anything he could get his hands on in random boxes of what were supposed to be just irrelevant personal effects

        He was only indicted specifically for like 30 of them but my understanding is they specifically chose ones they were willing to have potentially entirely exposed.

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          I‘m having a hard time grasping the whole thing. It’s actually insane that THIS happened. I feel like I am having a fever dream lol.

          Talk about boldness. This is just ridiculous haha. Man should be in El Salvador right now. Not the White House.

          Also, that bathroom looks fucking ugly. How can you have infinite money and then use it to make a room like this…

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              Not really. A large portion didn’t even vote at all, which is even worse in my book.

              „Here is Kamala Harris. She’s not perfect, but she values democracy and loves her country.

              Here is Donald Trump. He is senile, deranged, corrupted and shares classified information with the USA‘s mortal enemy. Also he hates the poors and gays and wants to take their rights away.“

              „Idk. They are kinda the same. I opted not to vote.“ 🥴🫠

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                  Exactly. These non voters are complicit. But I’m just saying… how idiotic can a person be? Like seriously.

                  How can you not vote when you have options like Kamala vs Trump?

                  Fucking brainless idiots. And now they probably cry about their non existent healthcare to get taken away completely. And losing their jobs. And somehow it’s the Lib‘s fault.

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                I absolutely believe that the Both Sides Are The Same idea is really, really stupid. How dumb do you have to be to believe that HitlerPig was going to be better at anything than Harris, or any other Democrat for that matter. Or even any other human. He is literally the most prolific traitor in American history, a definitive pyschopath, and hopelessly ignorant in the most basic things.

                The problem was that when it came to the Gaza issue, they both WERE kind of the same. Whichever one you voted for might pay some lip service to the genocide, but they were both going to continue to send weapons, bombs, and money to Israel to continue it. Under HitlerPig, it won’t end until the Gaza Strip is cleared out, and Kushner is building luxury resorts, hotels, and condos.

                Under Harris, there would be a lot more scolding, but it wouldn’t have slowed the flow of weapons one bit. In the end, Gaza would still be emptied, and Kushner would still be creating the Jewish Dubai.

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            Money doesn’t buy taste, as you learn pretty quick after seeing enough rich people houses.

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              True. Money buys expensive shit, no matter how ugly.

              Maybe unpopular opinion, but just look at Porsche. These cars are ugly as hell. Yet they cost a fortune.

              Not saying all expensive stuff is ugly. But it’s one example. Give me a Maserati any day tho.

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      Remember the old days, when the bathroom reading material was a stack of Reader’s Digest on the back of the toilet?

      I hope he’s in there one day tweeting his atrophied brains out on the toilet, and that chandelier drops on his head, and ends him. The only more fitting end would be him choking out during auto-erotic asphyxiation.

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    I play Skyrim. In that rpg video game you can be an assassin. After you kill Grelod the Kind, a child abuser, one of the children she tortured says:

    “Kill one person, and you can solve so many problems. I wonder at the possibilities.” - Runa Fair-Shield.

    When does assassination become an acceptable political strategy? I can see how bumping off many crazy men (and right now I can only name male dictators but I guess women could be just as bad) would make the world safer - well, safer if we assume it would not trigger a backlash and WW3.

    Maybe we could assassinate Kim and North Korea would rejoice not set off nukes? Maybe we could assassinate MbS and the Saudis would just shrug and appoint a new Crown Prince with a less murderous tendancy towards journalists and dissidents? But could we assassinate Putin, Trump, Xi, or Modi and not release hell?

    If I had a red button to press and it would remove Putin, Trump, Musk, Thiel, Hamas, Netanyahu, or other bad guys, should I press the button? What do you think?

    Note: this is a thought experiment - outside Skyrim, I never killed anyone, never worked as an assassin for hire, and have no desire to change that fact. I just want to read your thoughts on this topic - I think we’ve all wondered if there is a shortcut back to normality in face of current events but are we fooling ourselves?

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      Good people don’t become assassins, something bad people don’t have problems with.

      It’s never Hitler, Putin, Stalin or Trump who get assassinated. Always JFK, Martin Luther King, Bobby, …

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          The crusades existed many a day ago, Yahweh’s heavenly army battled once before.

          A fight must be unanimous however it must be on creeds agreed.

          It will be seering light, blinding, and in it - elusidating every facet of darkness among you. Only the wrathful will survive and for what? You must agree in your values to be truly mighty.

          See no creed, no color, and no gender. Witness inherent value in existing sentient. We only live when we enact our will.

          What is your will? Will you act? Or forever react.

          There is an army ripe for the picking. I am trying.

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      Biggest problem is that all of these people that you and me consider assholes do have a huge support. It’s not like a dictator can be a dictator without any support.

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      Putin and Xi…I’m pretty sure that, if they were topped, there’s enough institutional Authoritarianism that either there would be a “clean” and immediate change to someone with the next highest authority…or it would fall into civil war with just as much speed, rounds of assassinations back and forth until the power vacuum is filled by someone able to pull everyone left to heel…or the whole government falls apart…

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        The Chinese would certainly just appoint a new president, no problem. Xi might be in charge, but the Chinese communist party isn’t some vestigial organ. Russia, however… Putin’s been exclusively in charge for long enough and with no immediately clear successor that I’m almost certain that his death is going to result in a power struggle and civil war.

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            Imo, if you want a picture of what the end of the Putinato looks like, I would say that the end of Mexico’s Porferiato would probably be a fairly accurate representation.

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        You can absolutely make a massive difference with just one person. People really underestimate how much importance one leader is…

        You do have to worry about the election after any assassination though lol.

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          You do have to worry about the election after any assassination though

          Assassination would just make Trump into a MAGA martyr. They would be riled up and energized.

          You would end up with MTG as Vance’s VP or something equally horrid.

          I’d rather he die from a heart attack or a lightning strike on the golf course.

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            Assassination would just make Trump into a MAGA martyr. They would be riled up and energized.

            Yes, then the next question is, whom would they rally behind after Trump? We can see a chain of command for the line of presidency, but without Trump, there’d be a power vacuum at the top of his cult. Either it gets filled with an acceptable substitute, or the obligate-followers in his fandom won’t know where to direct their energy.

            I wouldn’t be surprised if such a power vacuum created drama. Would Musk still be pulling so many strings in the government if Vance were president? Would he find a way to usurp even more unconstitutional government power, like how he controls DOGE? Would Vance tolerate Musk’s intrusions at all?

            Or would his loyalist followers rally behind someone completely different, like a media personality? They’re looking for charisma in a leader, after all, and neither Vance nor Musk have that the way Trump (or someone professionally on TV) does. It’s possible some right-wing boner rises up through the crowd. Then, since Trumpsters naturally orient themselves toward the biggest dick around, he (Trump’s successor would almost certainly be a “he”) would get all their attention.

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          I’m reminded the example of the people’s will and the assassination of Alexander II. One person doesn’t change a system. On the other hand taking out all the billionaire donors that craft a system, well that might be something else. They could just buy a new leader.

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      What the fuck is this comment bro? Killing people is wrong. Trying to use videogame logic as your excuse is disgusting.

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        Killing people is wrong.

        TIL the allies of WW2 are evil.

        Sure, the Japanese invaded my ancestral homeland, done the horrible massacre in Nanjing, but “killing people is wrong” so I guess my ancestors shouldn’t have fought back and let them slaughter my people?

        🤣