• rigatti@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The left didn’t vote against fascism, but also the center didn’t. And the right, obviously.

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      4 months ago

      The Democrats could have run a turd as a candidate with the slogan “it’ll be a shit show” and I’d still have voted for them with no regrets, because I understand that fascism is an existential threat. If the Democrats are to blame in any way, it’s because they didn’t try to get people to understand that OH WAIT THEY DID.

      Should the Democrats have run a better candidate and a better campaign? Obviously yes. Is it their fault that voters were willing to let a fascist win? Not even a little.

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    4 months ago

    They share the blame, certainly, especially in depressing left-leaning turnout, but I think it was largely ‘swing voter’ twats sitting it out.

    Suppose we’ll find out when more detailed analysis of this utter fuck-up and handing the keys to one of the most powerful countries in the world to fascists is available.

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        4 months ago

        The Dems running a wet rag is a significant failing and they share the blame for fascism coming into power.

        At the same time, that in no way excuses the thought process of any voter who sat by and said, “I don’t like the wet rag. Let’s go with fascism instead!”

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      It’s funny cause back when Biden was VP I kept bringing up how he was a terrible Democrat and we should stop making cute uncle Joe memes, cause he’s actually a horrible person who has hurt a lot of people with his blind drug war. And when I would bring that up, the other leftists would downvote me and call me a right winger, because we’re not allowed to criticize our own n side apparently.

      So it’s funny that the same people who used to downvote any criticism of “uncle Joe” are the ones that are now calling anyone a Nazi if they support the Democrats.

  • Resonosity@lemmy.world
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    Who said Lefts didn’t vote for Harris?

    Are you manufacturing this? Where are the exit polls?

    Might a better reason for why Fascism won with this election be that Democrats, including Biden, Harris, the DNC, and the consulting class, failed to campaign to their own base, and even more than their base since most Americans, Dems and Reps, approve of progressive policies?

    Projection man

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      Biden got ~81m votes in 2020, Harris only got ~67m. >14m fewer people voted for her.

      Trump also dropped by ~2m, only getting ~72m this time around vs. ~74m in 2020.

      Trump didn’t win because of a giant right-wing national shift, he won because of voter apathy on the left.

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    I’m over pointing fingers and playing holy than thou.

    The people who plan to build a Hungarian-style autocratic government are in power now, and they’re hoping the left is exhausted and tired of fighting this shit for a decade.

    This shit is going to be dangerous, and we’re going to have to motivate people to push back hard than even. Pointing fingers just divides us and makes us even weaker.

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      4 months ago

      That’s a bummer because progressives couldn’t be bothered to stop an erasure of minorities and lgbt alongside a subjugation of women.

      Quite simply, either you align with them or you can get fucked.

      At least that’s how it’s currently playing out.

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          Shortsighted progressives decided that people they dont know halfway around the world were more important than their friends and family.

          Hope you can tell your wife/ girlfriend /sister you had the moral high ground when she’s declared property.

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    4 months ago

    The DNC would rather lose with a neoliberal than win with a progressive. If they want to get there shit together they have to win with the working class and ordinary people.

    They can’t be elitist centrists. They’ll lose every election if they do. The future is now old man