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Removed Comment … why do they end the tweet with the [Ukrainian equivalent of “Sieg Heil”](https://www.dw.com/en/new-glory-to-ukraine-army-chant-invokes-nationalist-past/a-45215538)? O.o by
reason: No
I’m a bit stumped about how obviously arbitrary that one is.
Context: it was about the phrase Slava Ukraini. You don’t rehabilitate Nazis. Not even if your country is invaded.
you’re posting misinformation. not even giving you a judgement. reap what you sow.
TIL DW is “misinformation”.
The DW article make no mention of the phrase Slava Ukraini being the Ukrainian equivalent of Sieg Heil. Those were entirely your own words. @spujb@lemmy.cafe is correct this is nothing but Russian propaganda talking points. Fuck off.
YDI all the way.
The DW article make no mention of the phrase Slava Ukraini being the Ukrainian equivalent of Sieg Heil.
Ok, you might be technically correct, as this is not literally what’s said in the article. Guess hyperbole isn’t allowed on c/politicalmemes /s.
It was still a fascist salute and the article states in its friggin headline that the phrase and how Ukraine deals with its ultranationalist figures is problematic.
Definitely keep an eye on this kind of behavior. This community is a powerful resource for accountability but also it has the potential just to become “I want to lie and troll in a place where I will not be held accountable.” Sort of happened in a couple LBZ threads which I appreciate you removing, sorta happened with that Freeze Peach user and is definitely happening right here. Appreciate ya :)
nope! dw is correct. it’s the rest of YOUR comment which is misinformation. blocked 😘
dw is correct.
DW:
‘Glory to Ukraine’ army chant invokes nationalist past
… wut?
Fun fact: Your own link disproves your claim that it’s a Nazi term. The only reason it wasn’t used after the Nazis used it was because Russia took over Ukraine, and they have a vested interest in destroying the national identity of Ukraine. As soon as they got rid of those SECOND authoritarian invaders, they started chanting it again.
So the only people who want to tie “Slava Ukraini” to the far right are Russia and, by sheer coincidence, you. The rest of us oppose misinformation, which you know for a damn fact is what you’re doing. I think “no” should suffice.
So you’re claiming that Stepan Bandera wasn’t a Nazi? O.o
TIL that Wikipedia is russian:
Stepen Bandera wasn’t the one who made the phrase popular. It was a regular chant 23 years before that guy was in power, and 12 years before that group was founded.
Check your OWN LINK if you want proof.
Stepen Bandera wasn’t the one who made the phrase popular. […] Check your OWN LINK if you want proof.
Ok, I “checked” my own link:
However it was in the 1930s when it really took hold, becoming a rallying cry for the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), explained Oleksandr Zaitsev, a historian from the Ukrainian Catholic University in Lviv.
The phrase first appeared at the beginning of the 20th century in different variations, when it became popular among Ukrainians during the Ukrainian War of Independence from 1917 to 1921.
However it was in the 1930s when it really took hold, becoming a rallying cry for the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), explained Oleksandr Zaitsev, a historian from the Ukrainian Catholic University in Lviv.
The Nazis also didn’t invent the “Heil!” exclamation or the roman salute. It’s still not ok to do either of these things. Not to mention the Swastika.
So you’re saying Taras Hryhorovych Shevchenko was a Nazi? Since the phrase originated from his poem?
Put the fox news down and go touch some fucken concrete, since theres no grass anymore.
You know goddamn well that the salute was made popular by Stepan Bandera and his fascists.
Or are you trying to tell me that Elon Musk was quoting Jacques-Louis David’s painting at Trumps inauguration, next?
