• hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Joe Rogan is a caveman, but I hate this mentality.

    I’ve had a ton of horrible experiences with doctors. Misdiagnosis, given bad medication, bad medical advice, etc. A common trait all of them had extreme arrogance. They all thought they had all the answers, and that modern medicine was infallible.

    If you had an issue they couldn’t put a clear label on fairly quick or weren’t responding to treatment in a textbook way, then that was somehow your fault. Either you were lying, or exaggerating, or it was all just in your head.

    I’m not alone in this experience. Basically every American with any sort of complex health issues has had a bad experience at the hands of someone who claims to be an expert. That’s on top of the medical establishment letting bad medicine go on for years, because they are extremely reluctant to admit they don’t have all the answers.

    Obviously, none of that makes Joe Rogan any sort of intellectual or trusted authority on anything except bro science. How you can’t expect people to have unflinching trust in doctors when doctors let people down so often.

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    I’ll take things that never happened for 500 Alex

    This reads like a shower argument I have when alone

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      The fact you don’t have any friends that would stand up for their wives like this is more an indictment of you and the company you keep

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        All of my friends would stand up for their wives. That’s a wild assumption you’re making

        The fact you take things so personally speaks volumes about your life.

        I’m not your dog, kick someone else dork

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          So why is it so unusual that somebody would stand up for theirs? Why is this a thing that doesn’t happen?

          You said it doesn’t happen.

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            The whole sequence of events seems unlikely to have happened particularly if you’ve never been dragged to a company meeting by your spouse. Where people absolutely drink and forget not everyone wants to hear their political hot takes like ‘‘there were only disagreements when they started letting women vote’’. But my hard line stepping trigger personally is people smoking Marlboros. Like seriously. Smoke camels, or actually get 30 feet from the door. No one wants to smell that shit. Plus I have asthma.

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    One of the wisest things I’ve ever heard is “White people should be lucky that black people only want equality, revenge would be perfectly understandable at this point.”

    The more I learn about black history, as in the history of what white people have been doing to black people since the latter was dragged kicking and screaming to America, the more I appreciate the phrase. It’s honestly some of the most horrific shit I’ve ever had the displeasure of learning.

    And just to clarify. I’m not black, I’m a pale transchick from the 90’s who’s whiter than sour cream, I’ve seen Wayne’s World 69,420 times and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Still doing it, even the Liberals who think they’re anti-Racist, because huge levels of discrimination on the basis of wealth and very low social mobility are core to preserving the oppression of the descendants of people such as freed slaves and inflicting on them the constante suffering which is a live of poverty in a Capitalist system:

      • When released, the slaves were poor compared to the rest and, because of being poor they and their children had to live in worse places, were not part of the landowner class and did not have access to the same opportinities as the rest (all the while the active discrimination on the color of their skin continued, making things worse). Fast forward to the modern days and whilst direct discrimination on the color of their skin is a lot less than a mere 50 years ago, you still have lots of Afro-Americans living in ghettos, oppressed via their poverty and with their children having far fewer opportunities to improve their lot in life than the rest.

      This is why the fight against Inequality must include fighting Wealth Inequality and Discrimination on the basis of Wealth: even if other kinds of inequality of treatment were magically eliminated tomorrow, Wealth Discrimination is by far the main mechanism of hurting those victims and their descendants (poor people live much more painful lives, from the quality of their dwellings and even the bed they sleep in, to that of their food and their personal safety, to the point that their Life Expectancy is a at least a decade less than rich people) and Wealth Inequality bakes in the past injustices (by denying the same opportunities to the descendants of those who are past victims of other kinds of discrimination, for example because poor neighbourhoods have worse schools and poored people don’t have the same access to universities when those institutions are private and have high attendance fees and non-meritocratic components to their selection process).

      In summary, people pushed down the Wealth scale (or never allowed to move up) by other kinds of Discrimination are inflicted pain and suffering via the mechanisms of Wealth Discrimination and their descendants are denied the same opportunities that others have to improve their lot in life by the very same mechanisms.

      In practice American Liberals are a mix of hypocrites and useful idiots because, whilst claiming to be against discrimination, they refuse to address the biggest one, which is the main pathway for inflicting life-long suffering to the victims of other kinds of widespread discrimination and for transmitting that status of victim down the generations long after the original kind of discrimination has lessened or even dissapeared.

      • meyotch@slrpnk.net
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        “You are part of a vast conspiracy in which some people are singled out to have nothing, for no reason.”

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          You’ve picked the very opposite of the motivations involved, hence got an obviously senseless result: feed the logic chain with garbage and you naturally get garbage out such as “conspiracies to make people poor”

          Nobody has the objective of having others have nothing, rather their objective is to have as much as possible themselves and for some, maybe many, others having nothing is just “an irrelevant side-effect”.

          People who want to have as much as possible will of course join forces with like minded individuals if that furthers said objective. It’s the most natural thing in the world, done totally in the open within Capitalist societies and requiring no “conspiracy”.

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              /me commenting in a meme community and some rando, who after making a meme-shaped dumb argument doesn’t like the response and goes for gate keeping claiming meme communities work the same as poetry communities were even the comments have to rime 😎 💩

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    doctors can have really shit opinions too

    the real message is: every opinion must be scrutinized heavily, if it stands scrutiny maybe there’s something there

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      It depends on what they’re talking about. I’ll listen to and generally heed a doctors medical opinion, for example. Their political opinion? Eh…

      Joe Rogan, who has doesn’t have expertise in anything comparable to a doctors expertise in medicine, no way I’m talking anything he says at face value.

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        I wouldn’t trust a doctor’s opinion on medicine unless their PhD were in medicine. Most aren’t.

        I don’t consider MDs to be doctors.

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          Reading your comments, I can’t tell if you are trolling us, or if you really are this tarded?

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          You should look up what a PhD in Medicine is and how it’s not the same as an MD (Doctor of Medicine). Your user name couldn’t be further from the truth.

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            I already know a PhD in medicine is different to an MD, that’s why I wrote a comment that says one’s a doctor and one isn’t. Read my comment until you understand it.

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              You said an MD is not a doctor. They are. They are literally a MEDICAL DOCTOR. A PhD in medicine is really only gained as a dual doctoral degree and will then be MD-PhD. It combines the Medical knowledge of an MD with the more research driven knowledge of a PhD.

              In the Medical world an MD, is often called a physician. However Lemmy is not the medical world and for all intents and purposes a MD is a Doctor.

              You saying MD is not a Doctor is just making you look stupid.

              • Genius@lemmy.zip
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                If a physician is qualified to teach at the highest academic level due to their research skills, I’ll call them a doctor. Otherwise, they’re just a physician. Putting in IVs and prescribing cold medicine doesn’t make you a doctor. Research skills make you a doctor.