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Have these parents never heard of Pinwheel, Gabb, Bark, etc? They exist for a reason. My two oldest have Pinwheel smartphones (Blu G91S, Motorola G Play 2024), and I have complete control over them. The kids know this as it was a condition of them having a phone at all.
Ah yes because we all know abstinence of a thing works so well /s
So… 100,000 parents decided they didn’t want to parent and would rather the “guvment” do the parenting for them and for the rest of the country?..
It’s not quite that simple, as you are kind of coerced into getting a phone at a very young age (usually ~8). So the good parents risk their kids being one of the weird kids without a phone, with all the ostracism and bullying that might come with that. It’s quite a dilemma actually.
That’s up to the parents to do. Not up to the government to do. That’s not the government’s job. That’s the parents’ job. I do agree that devices shouldn’t be added to the school’s curriculum until later, instead of at kinder as it is now. But legally banning phones for <14 is offloading responsibility to an entity that should never have that responsibility.
Now you’re getting it! Let big government raise their kids rather than just parenting themselves!
There are far more than 100,000 parents who didn’t sign it.
Millions never even heard there was something to sign.
In 2023, there were 19.5 million families in the UK, an increase of just over 1.1 million families (6%) since 2013.
Even if we assume that each signatory represents a unique family (i.e. no couples contributed two signatures) then 100k represents only half of a percent.
As far as I know, there are zero parents who signed a counter petition.
I am more worried about how this would be enforced. I’ve heard that China forces the major mobile games to scan the user’s face once in a while, which would be horrifying in a similar scenario, especially applied to everything, not just games.
Having social media not be soft-required for school would be awesome though. I hated having to be on VKontakte as a kid and hate having to be on Telegram now.
How many smartphones are even signed by that many parents? 2?
Talk about banning unicorns!
This would be equivalent of not letting under-14s into libraries or read anything practically for that matter in 1900s. Phones are not just used for social media or gaming, you are limiting the conversation abilities, accessibility of information, and freedom
Luckily they’re not banning tablets or laptops or tethering or even WiFi. Early teens should figure all that out in a jiffy.
problem is, among the items you enumerated, phones (usually) are the cheapest (not comparing flagship phones here, you can get good-ish entry level phone at 150-200 USD (I use one) and goodish laptops start around 300 (and even then it is mostly underpowered chrmoebooks, many of of which are not good), tablets (entry level) start at about the same prize of phones, but for a given prize, you would get other specs lower (they have to cut cost somewhwere, and larger screen costs more). Now, these tablets can serve as a carrier for information, but that would not be the most ideal solution.
Also, everything requires a phone number, and everyone just talks using whatsapp or some other phone-only application. You cant expect them to keep in touch without one.
Even though I would very much like for this to change, this is true, having a phone number is very important
phones are made for mindless media consumption. just look at the home screen of a factory resetted phone. facebook, instagram, tiktok, and other literal garbage too is not just installed, but pinned to the home screen by default
that very much depends on manufacturer of the phone, not all manufacturer supliment the purchase price of phones with those bloatware deals, you can definitely find some good ones in a pile of dirt
just look at the home screen of a factory resetted phone. facebook, instagram, tiktok, and other literal garbage too is not just installed, but pinned to the home screen by default
That’s an inconvenience to be sure, but cleaning all that crap from every device is just part of the ritual just like pealing the protective film off the screen.
If they ban smart phones, how will I teach my children to worship Satan?
I guess I might still have my D&D books somewhere around.
(This is a sarcastic reference to a judges excellent comparison. Also, I know exactly where my D&D books are. Also, I haven’t gotten to the Satan worship yet, if it is in my D&D books. Maybe I missed a rule.)
Kids these days and their phones be brainwashing them into the evil woke agenda and their LGBTQIA+ nonsense and turning my kids and their pet frogs gay, ban these phones immediately. Good riddance. /s
